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Anyone here taken part in the Duke of Edinburgh's Award?

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Thought I'd put this topic here, although if the mods feel it's more of a Sports and Fitness topic, feel free to move. :)


There was a news item today about a row stemming from a comment made by Prince Edward:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8333204.stm

Prince Edward has suggested the risk of death is part of the attraction of the Duke of Edinburgh award scheme for young people.

He made the comments during a trip to Australia after being asked about the death of a teenager on a hiking trip.

The prince did not comment on the case but said the award's element of serious danger - that "you could die doing this" - contributed to its popularity.

The scheme's organisers insisted it had an "exemplary safety record".

The Earl of Wessex was asked a question by The Australian newspaper about the death in 2006 of David Iredale from Sydney during a Duke of Edinburgh award scheme training camp.

The 17-year-old was walking in the Blue Mountains of New South Wales when he became lost, ran out of water and collapsed.

The prince said he did not know the details of the case, but it reminded him of the death of a British boy in the scheme's early years.

He said that, despite concern from the award's trustees about its future, the tragedy had actually boosted interest from the young.

"Suddenly the award, which was new...(its) reputation among young people was, 'Wow, this is serious. You could die doing this'.

"And the sense of adventure, the sense of excitement, that it gave you that sort of risk element - that's going back many years - but young people are like that, still that sense of adventure, the sense that it (death) is possible.

"Obviously we don't want that to happen. Certainly that's not the intention: we give them the skills to go out there and do it safely and constructively. It was just that psychology, about what makes young people tick," he said.
In terms of the Prince's comments, I think it was a bit much to attribute news of increased participation in the Award scheme to the fairly recent death of a participant. The expeditions and adventures are thrilling in themselves, and there is an element of risk to one's personal safety, but I wouldn't emphasise the perceived risk of death from taking part in the Award as a selling point, nor would I suggest that this was the sole reason to do the Award. Besides, that sort of talk only trivialises what was a tragic loss of life.

I can concur that the expedition side of the Award is the most challenging, and at times can be the riskiest to health and safety, which is why we had a lot of training in safety aspects of the expedition - both theory and practical experience - specific to the type of adventure we would go on.

Our expeditions always took us to the Grampian Mountains in Scotland, usually in the late spring and summer when the weather is most ideal. Yet we always had to learn the basics of hillwalking safety, including what to do in an emergency, basic first aid, calling for help, etc. (all this in the days before widespread mobile phone use of course - although acquiring a mobile signal in the middle of nowhere would probably be difficult at best) A minimum expedition team would consist of four boys and/or girls, and if for whatever reason the numbers fell to three or less, we would have to call off the whole trip as taking too small a group would be tricky should something go wrong and the team needed to get help.

Plus, before going off on an expedition, our parents had to sign a consent form to ensure that they too were aware of the risks of such an expedition.

We never had anyone seriously injured in our cohort of DoE participants, although we did have one chap in another year sustain a head injury after a fall, and during an early expedition another group almost fell down a steep slope down one side of a winding path. There were several moments where the occasion did threaten to (and on one or two occasions actually did) get the better of me, giving me, for the first time in my life, the feeling that I really could get seriously injured (or worse) in this wide world of ours.

They were great days. Since then, having settled down into a job (which in itself is another story altogether) I feel I've been too domesticated, less risky, really - and it shows, to be honest. However, I think the Award scheme has helped me become a better person overall, in terms of relationships, hobbies, experiences, and physical and mental wellbeing - I don't think I would have ever experienced such adventurous experiences otherwise, and would have just stuck to being a boring person doing little to nothing for most of my teenage years.

Anyway, anyone else do the Duke of Edinburgh's Award here, either in the UK or in other countries around the world? Do you think it helped you a lot in life?
 
I never had any inclination to do DoE, though having been in the cadets, I suppose I ended up doing a big chunk of stuff that could easily have been converted into at least a Bronze I guess. Traipsing over damp fields, camping in the cold, etc, etc, never grabbed me as an enjoyable past-time.

FWIW, I think the Prince is right though - people do "adventure sports", DoE and similar activities for the buzz/excitement of it. Part of that is the adrenaline rush that comes with taking (hopefully well-calculated!) risks.
 
FWIW, I think the Prince is right though - people do "adventure sports", DoE and similar activities for the buzz/excitement of it. Part of that is the adrenaline rush that comes with taking (hopefully well-calculated!) risks.
True, but I think Edward could have phrased it better, thus avoiding a news item on the BBC website. (But probably not that much better than his father, I suspect, but anyway... ;))

Me, I chose to do the Award so that I could feel I could learn new things such as leadership skills, meet new people, reinforce my own hobbies and interests and learn new interests, and build up memorable experiences which have stayed with me ever since. And also there was the element of character-building risk too, although I panicked at the first sight of an expedition, feeling it was way beyond my comfort zone.

I did manage to complete the Award at Bronze, Silver, and eventually Gold. With much difficulty at each stage, I must add.
 
FWIW, I think the Prince is right though - people do "adventure sports", DoE and similar activities for the buzz/excitement of it. Part of that is the adrenaline rush that comes with taking (hopefully well-calculated!) risks.
True, but I think Edward could have phrased it better, thus avoiding a news item on the BBC website.

One of the benefits of being Royalty, one assumes, is not needing to give a shit about the BBC's or anyone else's opinion on what is or isn't politically correct to say. :D

It's funny, I run a course for prospective med school applicants, and nearly all of them now have DoE at either Silver or Gold. After reading a few dozen personal statements, it starts to feel like the only reason anyone does DoE is to get into medical school... :lol:
 
FWIW, I think the Prince is right though - people do "adventure sports", DoE and similar activities for the buzz/excitement of it. Part of that is the adrenaline rush that comes with taking (hopefully well-calculated!) risks.
True, but I think Edward could have phrased it better, thus avoiding a news item on the BBC website.

One of the benefits of being Royalty, one assumes, is not needing to give a shit about the BBC's or anyone else's opinion on what is or isn't politically correct to say. :D
In Philip's case, he can even make a career out of it. :bolian:

It's funny, I run a course for prospective med school applicants, and nearly all of them now have DoE at either Silver or Gold. After reading a few dozen personal statements, it starts to feel like the only reason anyone does DoE is to get into medical school... :lol:
I think I was the exception from my final year in school... :guffaw: :( :bolian:
 
I got the bronze, silver, and gold levels - in fact, I flew to Toronto to get my gold award from Prince Philip himself. Now that I know more about him, I'm disappointed he didn't say anything offensive/embarrassing! I can't say whether they helped or not (despite the Duke's comment to me about it looking good on a CV). Perhaps it might have helped with university applications.

Unless the British version is different from the Canadian one, nothing at all resembling "adventure sports" was required when I did it. You basically just had to do a backpacking trip (or kayaking, biking, canoeing...), which are safer than being a pedestrian in pretty much any city!
 
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