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Why does everyone think they're 'damaged'? Man up, you bunch of losers.
This thread is going to crash & burn in a beautiful way. It's like seeing the plane coming in low and hard, smoke pouring out the back. Phone cameras at the ready; speed-dial to the news networks programmed in...
While waiting for the fuel tanks to catch on fire, I'll just say that there's a world of difference between having the usual rough & tumble of life, even to the point of having a psychiatric disorder actually, and people of either gender who are seriously disturbed in a personality disordered way.
The latter have the potential to be truly toxic. Having said that, they're also often very powerful people because of the emotional maelstroms they can generate in others, esp. those unaware of why they're being affected in such a strong way. They can also be highly attractive (or highly annoying!) to others because of, rather than in spite of, generating those powerful emotional reactions. Self-knowledge is your best defence against being damaged yourself by this sort of relationship whether it's a romantic, professional or simply friendly one.
That's extremely informative and well written.
You should post drunk more often.![]()
It always gives me a headache. And yet today I chose it anyway. And got a headache. There's a lesson there, relevant to this thread.
Think about it.
(I'm feeling very zen today...)
This thread is going to crash & burn in a beautiful way. It's like seeing the plane coming in low and hard, smoke pouring out the back. Phone cameras at the ready; speed-dial to the news networks programmed in...
While waiting for the fuel tanks to catch on fire, I'll just say that there's a world of difference between having the usual rough & tumble of life, even to the point of having a psychiatric disorder actually, and people of either gender who are seriously disturbed in a personality disordered way.
The latter have the potential to be truly toxic. Having said that, they're also often very powerful people because of the emotional maelstroms they can generate in others, esp. those unaware of why they're being affected in such a strong way. They can also be highly attractive (or highly annoying!) to others because of, rather than in spite of, generating those powerful emotional reactions. Self-knowledge is your best defence against being damaged yourself by this sort of relationship whether it's a romantic, professional or simply friendly one.
While waiting for the fuel tanks to catch on fire, I'll just say that there's a world of difference between having the usual rough & tumble of life, even to the point of having a psychiatric disorder actually, and people of either gender who are seriously disturbed in a personality disordered way.
It always gives me a headache. And yet today I chose it anyway. And got a headache. There's a lesson there, relevant to this thread.
Think about it.
(I'm feeling very zen today...)
If a Holdfast gets a headache in the woods and there's nobody to see the headache, then how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
While waiting for the fuel tanks to catch on fire, I'll just say that there's a world of difference between having the usual rough & tumble of life, even to the point of having a psychiatric disorder actually, and people of either gender who are seriously disturbed in a personality disordered way.
I have this huge fear that Im gonna end up stuck with the that type of person. I have low self esteem & never learned to be assertive, added to my social anxiety & Aspergers never having allowed me to experience very close relationships of any kind I think I could easily fall prey to being manipulated into a toxic relationship. Which is why I have avoided gettig into any type of relationship at all(romantic or platonic.)
and that's what my baggage is...
While I'm suitably impressed with your awesome manliness, I must remind you not to flame your fellow Posters.Why does everyone think they're 'damaged'? Man up, you bunch of losers.
If I find a "damaged" woman, do I get a discount at least?![]()
I've dealt mostly with women of the latter type Venhardi describes--not girls who are just a little down on themselves, but who have undergone some pretty serious shit.
I was actually talking to someone about this last night. I am mainly attracted to two kinds of women:
1. Damaged, vulnerable, standoffish women who have trust issues.
2. Smart, funny, confident, and (sexually) freaky women who are very much not "damaged" but I find fascinating for different reasons altogether.
The odd thing is, a #1 can turn into #2 over time.
The important thing to remember is that you can't go in trying to save them. You can try to help them, but they're the ones who have to do the work of sorting themselves out. But Venhardi is right, it's not easy to have a relationship with them. And if they do "get better," they will be very different people in a lot of ways.
Still, I do it because I have kind of a surplus of affection to give and I just have a natural tendency toward helping people. If they decide they don't need me anymore, that's just how it goes sometimes.
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