Misc Poll: Should Prostitution be Legalized?
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"Love" is in quotes, as if it were a computer variable.
You, like Mr. Data, have much to learn about romance.
As in the TNZ poll, I voted yes, with the proviso that such legalization is also joined with regulation and standardization, i.e. regular medical checks, birth control measure taken, disclaimer agreements etc.
I wouldn't use such a service, though I wouldn't stop others from using it, and I understand that people may be uncomfortable with it, regardless of religious/philosophical leanings.
I wouldn't use such a service, though I wouldn't stop others from using it, and I understand that people may be uncomfortable with it, regardless of religious/philosophical leanings.
That would be totalitarians who want to legislate their vision of "morality" and control over others who have the gall to do something so unabashedly wrong as... Disagree with their willingness to control others.
You know what FUCK means right... Fornicate Under Command of the King. That's because back in the the ages, anyone who lived on the King's land was a minion of the king on the same standing as livestock. And it was the king's order who got married.
You're position on the subject is the same, just the King replaced by the "select middle class" who supports you're opinion, and runs counter to the founding thought of this nation.
If I suddenly accused you of wanting to legislate YOUR view of morality (that sex is an utterly disposable and meaningless act and that all romance is dead), you wouldn't take kindly to that, would you? So why should I?
It means nothing of the kind.
I signed a marriage licence more than 30 years ago and no where did it say in it
1) that my husband had to support me
2) That I had to bear children
3) That I had to provide household services
It's a factual one. It's only a romanticized 20th century idea of marriage you are working with, one which didn't exist in practice for the majority until the post wwii era.
It's what marriage is. It's a hold over from the age when women were property. It started as a purchasing agreement between the woman's father and her husband, then became a contract between the man and woman, then became a romanticized concept in the time following the second world war.
Love exists outside of the variables of marriage. You can have both, one or the other. Love is not necessary for marriage, nor is marriage necessary for love. They are separate entities that really only became linked in the modern, post wwii era.
What does marriage have to do with romance. Nothing.You, like Mr. Data, have much to learn about romance.
Except I'm not. I'm not saying that everyone has to be a prostitute, or use a prostitute. I'm saying it's a matter for the individual to decide either way. I'm pro-choice, and as such I look to secure and protect the liberty and freedom of everyone, even from my own personal opinions, because it's their choice what they do, not mine. I can only choose for myself.
That was past the point in time where the concept of marriage was romanticized into something it never originally was so I'm not surprised.
I realize that. So why do you not allow me the same leeway here?
I am not some Taliban wannabe trying to force my views of sex on everyone. I simply am not comfortable with the concept of prostitution (I equate legalization with advocacy, and I cannot advocate something like this), would never take part in it, and I favor maintaining the status quo. Prostitution is *already* illegal, and I figure there must be a reason for that. So unless there's a reason to CHANGE that status, I figure it's best to leave it alone.
As has already been pointed out, prostitution has undesirable side effects, and until there's a way to deal with that, we're just not ready for it to be legalized just yet.
Bullshit. My grandparents married (in 1921) because they loved each other as did the vast majority of people of their era.
My great-grandmother was the major breadwinner in her marriage and certainty "wore the trousers". She also loved the man she married (in the 1890s) dearly and married him for love.
It isn't illegal in the majority of Australian states and I figure there must be a reason for that.
How about you worry about your own opinion instead of speculating on why everyone else has theirs? That's twice you've done it now, and neither time was it accurate regarding my own motives or those of several other people either.
As mentioned, seeing as how I can easily drive to Nevada or find inexpensive prostitution here in the LA/OC area if I really wanted it, it's not much of a "fantasy." But even with the ease of finding it, I've never felt the need to use a prostitute, nor is it particularly a desire of mine.
I think you'll find that the reason for the overwhelming amount of yes votes here versus a more lukewarm reception outside TrekBBS is the predominately economic left/social libertarian political slant of the board members.
This is the unlabeled version of the TNZ political compass which was nicely compiled by cultcross, and from the numerous similar tests posted in TNZ and the board as a whole before, the same rough distribution holds true for the board at large.
Because you are not simply deciding for you, you are making that decision for others. That is the difference and why you have no leeway here.
You favor the status quo because it is your opinion... You are dictating to others what they are allowed to do that has no effect on you. That is Taliban wannabe.
It was legal up until the start of the 20th century when the "regressive movement" picked up pace and started to legislate morality across the board. It was the same time that prohibition was popular, when sex became a bad thing...
When our society went from progressing forward and liberalizing to regressing to puritanical standards of thinking.
Sure you would, because you agree with it and forcing what you think upon to others.
Which exist more so when it's illegal than when it's legal.
Horseshit.
You are attempting to force *me* to do just the opposite - to advocate prostitution. How is that any different?
Great, they had both Love and Marriage. And their Marriage was shaped by that love. That doesn't change what Marriage is, based on it's historical purpose, and the fact that you do not have to have both to have one or the other,
Because you all don't have as many historical social hangups that we have to deal with, and tend to be much more libertarian in thinking.
Explain.
It's different because no one has attempted to force you to vote for, support, or use legalized prostitution in this thread. You've taken your own bizarre interpretation and run with it.
Alcohol is legal. Owning a gun is legal. Gambling is legal in certain areas and under certain circumstances. Are you saying that you are forced to advocate for any of those things? Someone is standing over you with a gun forcing you to say "alcohol is good"? Of course not. Don't be obtuse.
You are legalizing the choice, and only the choice. You are not advocating anyone to make a specific choice. Will some, sure. And you can speak out, try and convert, proselytize all you want to anyone you want to get the to choose the choice you think is right.
Avocation is not an inherent condition in legalization.
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