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Body Swap Stones, Good or Bad Idea?

They never really talked about the power level required for such dialing. It's apparently more than hooking up a bunch of ZPMs. Otherwise, that planet with 'special properties' never would been needed.

I suppose they would also need the right gate address (Earth gate plus a couple other chevrons).
 
So correct me if I'm wrong, but this bodyswap method is the only way of communication, is that right? Characters can't actually dial out from this ship to an Earth gate? I suppose that would have to be the case, or else they have no show.

Is there *any* conceivable way the Destiny could possibly actually dial Earth?

They never really talked about the power level required for such dialing. It's apparently more than hooking up a bunch of ZPMs. Otherwise, that planet with 'special properties' never would been needed.

I suppose they would also need the right gate address (Earth gate plus a couple other chevrons).

Zactly, in Air it needed a power source of a whole unstable-planet or some technobabble like that - the implication being, a ZPM isn't going to do the trick. I think the writers (ok, I hope the writers) were setting it up so the story of 'oh we got enough power to gate home! woo!' is either a long way off or near-impossible.

What I suspect we'll get is a planet which has the properties to dial Earth in one of their 6 hour 'stops'. Thus we can have a 'dialling Earth' episode without making it a permanent feature, and they'll come up with some Caretaker reason or other why they don't all disappear home while they've got the chance. Maybe Rush doesn't tell them it works..?
 
I thought that perhaps they should be alone for a while before being able to communicate with Earth. I think it was a little permature to communicate so quickly with Earth, in my opinion.
 
^ Well, there has been a spoiler such that there will be at least one
suicide
before too long.

If some way of communication, if not transport, couldn't be found, I'd expect a lot MORE of those, frankly. If I was stuck aboard that damn ship with no hope of getting home, I'd probably be one myself.
 
^ Well, there has been a spoiler such that there will be at least one
suicide
before too long.

If some way of communication, if not transport, couldn't be found, I'd expect a lot MORE of those, frankly. If I was stuck aboard that damn ship with no hope of getting home, I'd probably be one myself.

Interesting notion, but there is other people on board to talk to, and the knowledge that you could visit new worlds never seen by humans before. For me, that would keep me going. Also there is a Stargate on baord, and where there is a Stargate there exists the possiblity that it could get you back somehow.
 
there is other people on board to talk to, and the knowledge that you could visit new worlds never seen by humans before. For me, that would keep me going.

Not me. Without Earth, my home, my family, and Major League Baseball, there's nothing that would interest me or keep me going. I don't want new worlds, I want the familiar old one! (Then again, somebody like me would never have been in a situation where I could have conceivably gotten on board Destiny in the first place, so I guess there's not a lot of danger. :p )

Also there is a Stargate on baord, and where there is a Stargate there exists the possiblity that it could get you back somehow.

Perhaps. In the same way that if you were kidnapped and taken to a city halfway around the world (where you could not possibly find your way back home) the fact that there's a road going by the house where the kidnappers have stashed you, and also a road going by the front door of your house, could possibly mean you could get back home...

Besides, we've just discussed why it's impossible to use the 'gate on the Destiny to get home. So that would tend to ruin the hope, wouldn't it?
 
So correct me if I'm wrong, but this bodyswap method is the only way of communication, is that right? Characters can't actually dial out from this ship to an Earth gate? I suppose that would have to be the case, or else they have no show.

Is there *any* conceivable way the Destiny could possibly actually dial Earth?
Maybe, but they'd probably need to find a power source on par with that unique planetary core they used to power the stargate on Icarus Base.
 
Where? What hope? Like I said, we've already proven that the Stargate can't be used to get back to Earth.

You're a "beer cup half empty" kinda guy, aint ya?

;)

In a way, yeah.

But like I said, somebody with my personality and outlook would never join the Stargate program (or indeed any branch of the military) in the first place. So there's no way I personally would end up in the SGU situation. I guess that's the pickle on the giant gravel sandwich that is my life. :lol:
 
So correct me if I'm wrong, but this bodyswap method is the only way of communication, is that right? Characters can't actually dial out from this ship to an Earth gate? I suppose that would have to be the case, or else they have no show.

Is there *any* conceivable way the Destiny could possibly actually dial Earth?
Maybe, but they'd probably need to find a power source on par with that unique planetary core they used to power the stargate on Icarus Base.

Bingo, you never now what you may find to help power the gate to Earth. I'm waiting till next season when they upgrade the Hammond with the Worm drive that atlantis used in its last episode and it meats up with the Destiny! LOL..
 
So correct me if I'm wrong, but this bodyswap method is the only way of communication, is that right? Characters can't actually dial out from this ship to an Earth gate? I suppose that would have to be the case, or else they have no show.

Is there *any* conceivable way the Destiny could possibly actually dial Earth?
Maybe, but they'd probably need to find a power source on par with that unique planetary core they used to power the stargate on Icarus Base.

Bingo, you never now what you may find to help power the gate to Earth. I'm waiting till next season when they upgrade the Hammond with the Worm drive that atlantis used in its last episode and it meats up with the Destiny! LOL..

You know, just last night I was wondering how long before that happens...
 
^ The big problem they have is that they don't have the easy get-out that Atlantis had of getting the SGC to just hook up a ZPM to dial them back. If a character goes back to Earth because of some magic thing they find on the Destiny or some planet they visit, they're basically out of the show as there won't be a way to get them back. To make a two-way travel episode, they'd need not one but two magical tech solutions.
 
In terms of trying to dial home, I don't necessarily think that a direct gate-via-planet-sized-power-source would be the greatest idea.


Rather, I'd sooner see an attempt to steal the type of gate-macro written for the intergalactic bridge and use it to hop-skip-jump back to, if not the Milky Way, than at least one of those galaxies that Destiny passed on the way to where it is. (Or, launch an attempt from Earth or Pegasus outwards.)


Assuming that there's at least one active gate in each of those galaxies, and assuming that a way to at least power each step in the chain as you go (say, with two Zed-PMs - take one with you while using the other to dial the next galaxy, or maybe create some kind of one-shot battery which you charge using the Zed-PM and leave behind you as you gate to the next galaxy) it might be more interesting...

...not least in terms of opening each of these new galaxies up for future Tau'ri exploration.



(Or, alternatively, if the idea is tried and ended up failing, what would happen if a stranded expedition member happened to have one of Earth's stones with them? Instead of ending up at the SGC, an unsuspecting Destiny stone-user could end up stuck in one of those in-between galaxies out there...)
 
I thought that perhaps they should be alone for a while before being able to communicate with Earth. I think it was a little permature to communicate so quickly with Earth, in my opinion.

I agree! And they shouldn't use the stones as frequently as they do. And they should really use them to try to resolve their situation instead of talking to their families. But, then again, I guess that's what people do when they get stranded somewhere without any means of getting home.
 
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