Red Dwarf 10 Announced

[Bob The Skutter]

Surely a conversation on Dial-A-Tart channels deserves it's own Not At All Supposed To Be A Red Dwarf Thread once it's drifted away from the initial premise?

I don't think so... for me the conversation was ended there anyway. And it's not like anyone was talking Red Dwarf to drown it out.

Your logic is....

Non-existent? Yeah, that's it.

ITL. hypocritically also not talking about Red Dwarf.

What else is there to say about it anyway?
I don't mind conversation going off in its own direction.

 

[Captain Shaw]

I wonder is Craig Charles leaving Corrie or taking a break?
Not sure when his contract is up.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

I wonder is Craig Charles leaving Corrie or taking a break?
Not sure when his contract is up.

I think he signed a 3 year contract last year.

 

[Australis]

I think the Americans (like Aussies) assume there's few chaneels because that's what the status quo used to be in the 70s and 80s - BBC1, BBC2, ITV, maybe oine or two others

 

[Bob The Skutter]

I think the Americans (like Aussies) assume there's few chaneels because that's what the status quo used to be in the 70s and 80s - BBC1, BBC2, ITV, maybe oine or two others

multichannel TV didn't really take off until the mid-late 80s in the UK, but there was rediffusion in until the mid-80s which offered a few extra channels, then cable came in around that time and offered other channels, so it's been over 20 years since cable, and BSB and Sky launched their satellite TV services. Over a decade since Digital terrestrial TV started offering 20 channels or more through an aerial.
Just seems like people assume we're forever stuck in the past in the UK for some reason.

 

[wamdue]

there is also the case, that most of the new TV shows, are still on BBC, ITV etc there is not that much new coming out of multi channel, and alot of what there is, does not make it across the pond, like BBC stuff does.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

there is also the case, that most of the new TV shows, are still on BBC, ITV etc there is not that much new coming out of multi channel, and alot of what there is, does not make it across the bond, like BBC stuff does.

I suppose that is true, almost all the original programming on multichannel is made by the BBC, ITV or Channel 4, with the occasional thing from Sky, or UKTV.

 

[wamdue]

we just do not have channels like FX, Showtime, or HBO which produce the level of quality drama on our multi channel.

Meanwhile when Hex was shown in the states it was on BBCAm, so like Primeval it became associated with the BBC.

I saw a promo for Shark Tank the US version of Dragons Den, and it mentioned the BBC in that, which was wrong, its not a BBC original format, goes to show what high regard the BBC name has in the US.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Yes, but Showtime and HBO are like nothing we have here, Premium channels over here show sport and movies, not make original programming. FX on the other hand is a spin off of Fox, and shows a lot of repeats with the occasional original drama, so would be comparable to one of our spin off channels.

 

[wamdue]

can we really expect US viewers to know the difference between C4 & E4? and why would they know about Five, what shows does Five make that air in the states, yet alone Fiver.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

can we really expect US viewers to know the difference between C4 & E4? and why would they know about Five, what shows does Five make that air in the states, yet alone Fiver.

Why not, we know the difference between Fox and FX, we know the difference between CBS and The CW. We may get more of their shows but they still air on BBC One, Two, Three, Four, Sky One, ITV 2 and 4 etc.

 

[wamdue]

can we really expect US viewers to know the difference between C4 & E4? and why would they know about Five, what shows does Five make that air in the states, yet alone Fiver.

Why not, we know the difference between Fox and FX, we know the difference between CBS and The CW. We may get more of their shows but they still air on BBC One, Two, Three, Four, Sky One, ITV 2 and 4 etc.

but we know that House is from FOX, and that a show like theShield would not air on FOX, as its a cable show, yet both have aired on Five.

more to the point its partly to do with spoilers, if you read news about shows at US pace you are going to take in details like what channel they are on.

the sheer amount of US TV we get, compared to how little the US (outside of BBCAm) means that US viewers just dont see the need to follow UK TV websites (of which there are less) like UK viewers do US shows.

 

[Australis]

Hmm. Compare to Australia. In the 60s and 70s, our capital cities had 3 commercial stations (7, 9, & 10) and the public broadcaster, ABC (2). And because of distances and no networks, each big town out in the regions had one station and the ABC. Which wasn't so bad, the country stations could pick and choose what TV series they wanted. Missed some growing up, but we usually got the good stuff (for a given value of 70s good. ).

Later came SBS, whci is a brilliant, brilliant station, then pay TV and its multitudes. The capital city stations took over the country town stations or built their own extension to the network, so every country town got the 3, plus ABC.

Digital TV when it kicks in will have more free stations. We have a lot fewer stations... but a lot less crap too.

 

[wamdue]

Thanks for The Chasers War On Everything I really enjoyed that, however do you think you go 6 months without some sort of controversy, sure the Chaser has been responsible for alot of them, but it seems like there is alot of them recently (or is it just that they end up on YouTube and find there way onto my browser? )

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Hmm. Compare to Australia. In the 60s and 70s, our capital cities had 3 commercial stations (7, 9, & 10) and the public broadcaster, ABC (2). And because of distances and no networks, each big town out in the regions had one station and the ABC. Which wasn't so bad, the country stations could pick and choose what TV series they wanted. Missed some growing up, but we usually got the good stuff (for a given value of 70s good. ).

Later came SBS, whci is a brilliant, brilliant station, then pay TV and its multitudes. The capital city stations took over the country town stations or built their own extension to the network, so every country town got the 3, plus ABC.

Digital TV when it kicks in will have more free stations. We have a lot fewer stations... but a lot less crap too.

The UK being so small could easily cover a majority of the country with the national stations, so BBC got a competitor in ITV in the 55, then BBC 2 launched in the 64 and Channel 4 in 82. Then Channel 5 launched in 1997. All national (although 5 was only available to about 70% of the country at first.) Just between the 5 of them there's far too much rubbish, but add in the various other channels and you end up with mostly shit and repeats.

oh and on the Red Dwarf front, Robert Llewellyn just tweeted

Want to re-state that UKTV, aka Dave have commissioned Doug Naylor to write scripts, still a long way to go before it's all official

 

[wamdue]

I think one of the problems for Aussie TV, is that whilst Australia is a massive place, much of its population is in large citys, making it near impossible to get TV to the few in rural areas.

 

[Australis]

That was the problem, for sure. WHich was why each big town (eg, Orange, Tamworth, Mt Isa, etc) had their own station, and covered their own area. Our station was hundreds of miles away, but they had a translator on the nearby mountain range, which gave them access to the plains, which were billiard table flat for thousands of square kilonetres. When we moved to another town, the local station had 3 channels acting as translators across a more hilly area.

Now we have satellite TV, which is for nearly everywhere outseide the capital cities. Hell, my Foxtel comes through sat, and we're in a pretty built up area only a hundred k's from Sydney.

As for that stupid Jackson thing, don't get me started. Sure there's a PC reaction to it, but it was plain stupid to begin with, they were recreating a skit the same guys had done back in the 80s. A different time.

 

[wamdue]

As for that stupid Jackson thing, don't get me started. Sure there's a PC reaction to it, but it was plain stupid to begin with, they were recreating a skit the same guys had done back in the 80s. A different time.

I wonder if Hey Hey Its Saturday fans, are glad thats its come back only to be the centre of a worldwide controversy? and tarnishing (I assume) its good name.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

it went off topic, when I listed all the freeview channels (sorry), but yeah maybe I should start a new thread.

Didn't know I would start a whole new tangent here.
I never really knew what to assume, as far as "local" channels, for the UK. I'd always known about various BBC#'s, and ITV. I did assume there would be satellite and cable type channels.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

it went off topic, when I listed all the freeview channels (sorry), but yeah maybe I should start a new thread.

Didn't know I would start a whole new tangent here.
I never really knew what to assume, as far as "local" channels, for the UK. I'd always known about various BBC#'s, and ITV. I did assume there would be satellite and cable type channels.

We don't really have local channels in the UK, more regional. ITV started off as a network of regional variants. Then in 2004 the owners of those regional variants merged in to ITV plc (except for STV and UTV). They still have the regions for advertising and regional news services but there's very little else there's any regional differences in.
BBC also have regional variations for news coverage and, plus Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland have their own variations of BBC Two which sometimes show more local programming.
Wales also has S4C instead of Channel 4, they show part of Channel 4's line up and also Welsh language programming too.