should Romen Polanski be extradition back to the usa?
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Yes he should be extradited. He raped a 13 year old. End of story.
Yes, he should have been extradited back three decades ago.
That said, the victim has said she doesn't want this all brought up again. She has got on with her life and maybe her wishes should be taken into account.
That said, the victim has said she doesn't want this all brought up again. She has got on with her life and maybe her wishes should be taken into account.
Yes. The law must be carried out. If Polanski is allowed to get away with his crime, it only reinforces that there are people above the law. That's sadly true, but it should not be.
Honestly, I'm suprised they actually bothered to apprehend him after all this time. It's not like he's been running across the world like The Fugitive, donning disguises and evading the government at every turn. He's a major film director, they could've captured him at any time.
I assume they've been waiting for him to leave France so he could get extradited?
Anyway, this does suck a bit, as he was a great artist. He had some tough breaks too, with his wife being murdered and then this. It doesn't justify the crime though, so it's fair that he should pay.
Honestly, I'm suprised they actually bothered to apprehend him after all this time. It's not like he's been running across the world like The Fugitive, donning disguises and evading the government at every turn. He's a major film director, they could've captured him at any time.
I assume they've been waiting for him to leave France so he could get extradited?
Anyway, this does suck a bit, as he was a great artist. He had some tough breaks too, with his wife being murdered and then this. It doesn't justify the crime though, so it's fair that he should pay.
Precisely. French law wouldn't allow his extradition while he was on their territory. The same would apply the other way around, by the way, if he were wanted in France and the US had him.
Now he's left France to a country that does have an extradition treaty with the US, absolutely it should go ahead.
Is English your first language, or did you grow up elsewhere than Phoenix?
He drugged and raped a 13 year old girl. He admitted it. He was convicted.
Why are we even having this discussion?
Why are we even having this discussion?
He did time for his crime in a maximum security prison, then made a plea deal that included no more time that was accepted by the prosecution. Then the judge reneged to make an example out of him. He DID do time. If it was me, and it wouldn't be 'cause I would never do such a thing so we can dispense with any insults, I'd be thinking 'fuck you, jack' and get out of there, too.
Plus, the victim forgives him and wants the entire thing left in the past and also thinks he was treated unfairly.
Not to mention, Angelica Huston was there at the time. How come no one thinks she's a horrible person, or even an accessory to the crime?
Plus, the victim forgives him and wants the entire thing left in the past and also thinks he was treated unfairly.
Not to mention, Angelica Huston was there at the time. How come no one thinks she's a horrible person, or even an accessory to the crime?
He was in jail for less than 60 days. That's hardly "time" for drugging and raping a 13-year old.
Also, a Judge does not have to accept a plea agreement if he does not believe the punishment fits the crime. Polanksi feared a long time in jail and fled the country. That makes him a fugitive.
So we should just do as she says and ignore the law? Not to mention that the current Judge has stated that Polanski should appear in court with a chance the charges will be dropped. Rather than being a man, he chooses to be a coward and hide. Oh, and please tell me that if the victim feels this needs to go away, why she continues to appear on talk shows about the case.
That is a very interesting question.
He pled guilty and fled when his sentence was handed down. I don't see any ambiguity here. He should go to prison and serve his time.
Maybe if he'd manned up and done his time back in the '70's, he wouldn't be putting everyone through this bullshit now. Maybe he should've thought of someone besides himself.
Maybe if he'd manned up and done his time back in the '70's, he wouldn't be putting everyone through this bullshit now. Maybe he should've thought of someone besides himself.
We have been wondering for a long time, but no answer for now. Personally, I'm really curious about it!
extradition is complicated it involves 3 nations, so a lot of lawyers will get rich long before anything happens. Also the girl in question (now a woman) has forgave him
However I firmly believe he should be punished, if you do the crime you do the time and this was a perverted crime
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The rest.
However I firmly believe he should be punished, if you do the crime you do the time and this was a perverted crime
WorldNetDaily.com
The rest.
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Though the article clearly has an agenda, I have heard all that stuff about Polanski's taste for "very young girls" before. I mean, one doesn't drug and rape a 13-year-old out of nowhere. That sort of mindset comes from somewhere, and doesn't just dissipate spontaneously. Ugh.
Prison inmates take a very dim view of anyone who abuses/rapes a child, so it should be very interesting to see what happens to this sick bastard in the slammer.
The article definitely has an agenda. It says the victim was unconscious, when she has clearly stated many times that she was not, even testifying before grand juries about exactly what happened.
Roman Polanski was definitely not a nice man. There's no denying that, and what he did was extremely wrong, but once I find inaccurate information in something like that, it puts the rest into question.
As for a mind set like that coming from somewhere, how about being abused and seeing your mother killed in WWII concentration camps and then having your wife brutally murdered and your unborn child cut from her womb? I'm not defending him, but that would fuck anybody up.
At the top there has always been a secret society of child molesters, its stench enters in the US congress, its on the Catholic church, its in the Buddhist temples, the disgrace and crime of child molestation enters the Justice halls off France, it is in Asia, South America, it is in the EU...it like some kind of perverted Masonic club, it is everywhere and it goes back to the times of ancient Greece
People at the top will openly advertise they can get away with child abuse or sex scandals just to attract other perverts to their inner circles
Eaton Affair: involving a sex scandal and the resignation of much of Andrew Jackson's (D) cabinet (1831)
Strom Thurmond raped and impregnanted a 15-year old African American maid.
Arnold Schwarzenegger, admitted having sex with a 16-year old when he was a body building champ
James V. Barbuto was accused of trading sexual favors with female defendants for leniency in their cases. He was exposed on national TV by Geraldo Rivera who emphasized his preference for being "spanked" while wearing women's panties.
Harold Carswell nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court, had to quit because even the dogs on the street know of his crimes he was later arrested in for homosexual advances in a men's washroom
Mayor of Racine, Wisconsin, charged with five child-sex felonies after being arrested by the FBI at a mall trying to meet a 14 year old girl
Glenn Murphy Jr. (R) president of the Young Republican National Federation, under investigation for sexual assault of a sleeping 22 year-old man
British Liberal Party leader Jeremy Thorpe was arrested and tried for allegedly paying a hitman to murder his homosexual lover, model Norman Scott, while walking his dog on Exmoor; the hitman only shot the dog, Rinka. Thorpe was forced to resign due to his clandestine gay affairs, but was acquitted of conspiracy to murder
Italian premier felt obliged to appear on national television to reject his wife's suggestions that he had a sexual relationship with 18-year-old glamor girl Noemi Letizia, calling it a "lie" and demanding she apologize.
Mark Foley, this time its young girls, another self-righteous hypocrite
FRANCE
These are the kinds of people that represent our culture and democracy?
People at the top will openly advertise they can get away with child abuse or sex scandals just to attract other perverts to their inner circles
Eaton Affair: involving a sex scandal and the resignation of much of Andrew Jackson's (D) cabinet (1831)
Strom Thurmond raped and impregnanted a 15-year old African American maid.
Arnold Schwarzenegger, admitted having sex with a 16-year old when he was a body building champ
James V. Barbuto was accused of trading sexual favors with female defendants for leniency in their cases. He was exposed on national TV by Geraldo Rivera who emphasized his preference for being "spanked" while wearing women's panties.
Harold Carswell nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court, had to quit because even the dogs on the street know of his crimes he was later arrested in for homosexual advances in a men's washroom
Mayor of Racine, Wisconsin, charged with five child-sex felonies after being arrested by the FBI at a mall trying to meet a 14 year old girl
Glenn Murphy Jr. (R) president of the Young Republican National Federation, under investigation for sexual assault of a sleeping 22 year-old man
British Liberal Party leader Jeremy Thorpe was arrested and tried for allegedly paying a hitman to murder his homosexual lover, model Norman Scott, while walking his dog on Exmoor; the hitman only shot the dog, Rinka. Thorpe was forced to resign due to his clandestine gay affairs, but was acquitted of conspiracy to murder
Italian premier felt obliged to appear on national television to reject his wife's suggestions that he had a sexual relationship with 18-year-old glamor girl Noemi Letizia, calling it a "lie" and demanding she apologize.
Mark Foley, this time its young girls, another self-righteous hypocrite
FRANCE
These are the kinds of people that represent our culture and democracy?
And if she wanted him literally burned at the stake, would it still be acceptable to take her wishes into account?
The US justice system considers the victim's wishes to be utterly irrelevant, otherwise it would corrupt the supposed impartiality of the system and introduce an unacceptable level of arbitrary judgment. In California, where this crime took place, victims have next to no right to even access basic, pertinent information about criminal proceedings. It was only in the past year or two that an act was passed in California congress to allow the dissemination of information to the victim, and even then you have to fight for it with very limited chance of actually obtaining the information.
Further, a civil judgment, which the victim received against Polanski although it is unclear whether she was able to collect, is separate from criminal proceedings and has no bearing on the relevance of the criminal case.
For good or for ill, the wishes of Polanski's victim should be, and will be, ignored. IMO, she is fortunate that the justice system is actually doing its job to resolve this issue, and her assertions that the system's continued efforts to bring Polanski back to the US have hurt her more than Polanski himself is bunk to me. I've dealt first hand with a truly failed system where the people involved didn't want to make the effort to bring my attacker to any real justice. She has no real idea what a "failure" in justice is.
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I pretty much agree with all of that. If we start taking victim's opinions into account when it comes to trials, sentencing, and punishment, the system stops being the impartial pursuit of justice. This victim wants her attacker to walk free. What if the next one wants to string him from the rafters? Letting victim's opinions into the process opens up the justice system to become a tool of private vengeance.
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