House: 6x05 - "The Tyrant" - Discussion and Spoilers

[Michael Chris]

Amazing episode.

 

[Sephiroth]

good, maybe they will finally get rid of Chase, I allways hated that prick

 

[Data Holmes]

I'm starting to wonder if all the "under docs" are going away at the end of this season. It's looking more and more like the "first three" are on the block, and Toub and 13 are up in the air at this point.

 

[Amberfool]

For all of those wondering about Chase and Cameron here's what I've heard.

Spoiler: Chase and Cameron Spoiler.

Cameron is obviously furious with Chase and they both decide to leave PPTH. Chase for some reason backs out and stays and Cameron goes in episode 8. Luckily, according to the producer, this is just a temporary storyline leave, so she'll be back soon after. Before that last bit came out, it was stated that it was nothing to do with the actress wanting to leave, so I think they will both be around for quite a while yet.

 

[Sci]

Gave it an Excellent. Far more drama than last week, and some nice moral grayness thrown in.

Grayness? It's black and white. Hypocrates's oath is clear: do not harm. Chase clearly broke this oath. Don't get me wrong, it does great tv but there shouldn't be any moral dilema from a doctor's standpoint, anyway.

He has a point, from the stand point of both options did harm.

If he lived, harm to thousands, perhaps millions of people.
If he dies, harm to him.

The question then becomes triage. Which option results in the least amount of harm.

It's not a doctor's right to determine who has a right to live or die. Not ever. A doctor's job is to heal the patient, whoever that patient might be. They're suppose to treat monsters and victims alike.

There's no greyness. Chase is a murderer, pure and simple.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

He has a point, from the stand point of both options did harm...
The question then becomes triage. Which option results in the least amount of harm.

You're completely wrong. Chase only has such a choice to make if he thinks his job title is God. It's not - he's a physician and his oath is clear.

 

[Sci]

He has a point, from the stand point of both options did harm...
The question then becomes triage. Which option results in the least amount of harm.

You're completely wrong. Chase only has such a choice to make if he thinks his job title is God. It's not - he's a physician and his oath is clear.

Exactly. If he honestly felt that it was incumbent upon him to make sure that the guy was held accountable for his crimes against humanity, Chase should have found someone willing to kidnap him and smuggle him into a country that would arrest him and try him for his crimes.

 

[Islander]

It's not a doctor's right to determine who has a right to live or die. Not ever. A doctor's job is to heal the patient, whoever that patient might be. They're suppose to treat monsters and victims alike.

There's no greyness. Chase is a murderer, pure and simple.

Absolutely. But it does make great TV, doesn't it?

For those that think either Chase or Cameron are leaving the show, forget about it. They're still in the opening credit which means they are signed for the season.

 

[nx1701g]

For all of those wondering about Chase and Cameron here's what I've heard.

Spoiler: Chase and Cameron Spoiler.

Cameron is obviously furious with Chase and they both decide to leave PPTH. Chase for some reason backs out and stays and Cameron goes in episode 8. Luckily, according to the producer, this is just a temporary storyline leave, so she'll be back soon after. Before that last bit came out, it was stated that it was nothing to do with the actress wanting to leave, so I think they will both be around for quite a while yet.

It's already been confirmed Jennifer Morrison has left the series. She'll be a guest star for her return appearances (if they happen).

 

[Amberfool]

For all of those wondering about Chase and Cameron here's what I've heard.

Spoiler: Chase and Cameron Spoiler.

Cameron is obviously furious with Chase and they both decide to leave PPTH. Chase for some reason backs out and stays and Cameron goes in episode 8. Luckily, according to the producer, this is just a temporary storyline leave, so she'll be back soon after. Before that last bit came out, it was stated that it was nothing to do with the actress wanting to leave, so I think they will both be around for quite a while yet.

It's already been confirmed Jennifer Morrison has left the series. She'll be a guest star for her return appearances (if they happen).

So it's been officially confirmed by Fox in a press release? Please could you link, cause my browsing on google has not turned up anything of the sort. If not then it's not official that she's gone for good. If it's a storyline thing which is the message going round the web, then there really is no need for her to leave, she didn't quit supposedly and as a liked character, I'm assuming that they didn't fire her, but Shore did say that C&C would be getting more screen time so obviously a plot needed to be made for them which this obviously is. Unless you pull concrete proof out of your hat in your reply, I can't see it happening.

 

[nx1701g]

^ It was on Ausiello's site and he's typically right about these things and was also on MSNBC's site. The article explains that the producers decided that the character had run her course on the show and wrote her out of the series. She has already shot her final scenes.

 

[Amberfool]

^ It was on Ausiello's site and he's typically right about these things and was also on MSNBC's site. The article explains that the producers decided that the character had run her course on the show and wrote her out of the series. She has already shot her final scenes.

Already read that first one. While TV station's can't lie, producers and actors sure can, sometimes outright and blatantly, so while I agree with the fact that she's leaving around episode eight (that's when it's supposedly happening) I don't think anyone knows anything really about her returning later in the season.

 

[Neroon]

I was curious on House's treatment of the amputee, did a quick search and found this:

Mirrors to cure phantom pain.

I am really glad you included that link, because I was wondering about the technique when seeing it in the episode that night. It's a fascinating treatment, but the way House used it within the story itself made me wonder how legitimate it was.

 

[bigdaddy]

I gave it a good because I kept looking at my clock wondering when it would be over.

 

[Islander]

I gave it a good because I kept looking at my clock wondering when it would be over.

Well that would be bad unless you were looking hoping it wasn't too much near the end just yet.

 

[bigdaddy]

I enjoyed the episode, it just felt really long for the first 40 minutes.

Spoiler: About the newer docs...

Question: On House, what’s going on with Taub and Thirteen? Are they off the show? —Rich
Ausiello: My House mole reports that both Olivia Wilde and Peter Jacobson’s trailers have not been emptied out, so I’m going to go with no.

 

[nx1701g]

^ It was on Ausiello's site and he's typically right about these things and was also on MSNBC's site. The article explains that the producers decided that the character had run her course on the show and wrote her out of the series. She has already shot her final scenes.

Already read that first one. While TV station's can't lie, producers and actors sure can, sometimes outright and blatantly, so while I agree with the fact that she's leaving around episode eight (that's when it's supposedly happening) I don't think anyone knows anything really about her returning later in the season.

They also reported that her trailer has been emptied, which isn't something that's done if there are plans for the actress to return.

 

[bigdaddy]

My house has been emptied out, prove it wasn't.

 

[davejames]

It's not a doctor's right to determine who has a right to live or die. Not ever. A doctor's job is to heal the patient, whoever that patient might be. They're suppose to treat monsters and victims alike.

There's no greyness. Chase is a murderer, pure and simple.

I agree what Chase did was wrong, but I still think the episode did an excellent job of at least making his actions understandable.

I mean, he would technically be a "murderer" if he did the same thing to Hitler, but I don't think many people would hold THAT against him for very long.

In any case, this was definitely the most riveting and compelling medical story I've seen on the show in a while. As much as I love the show, those usually tend to be pretty forgettable.

 

[Trekker4747]

You just Godwin'd a House episdoe discussion thread.

You deserve a prize.