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underated SCIFI movies

Delicatessen is more of a science fiction film, in the sense it's a rather oddball comic dystopia. Don't get me wrong, though, visually strange and conceptually weird enough the 'Terry Gilliam-ish' tag is well deserved - any fan of, say, Brazil should consider giving it a go.

Also maybe Twelve Monkeys fans need to see La Jetee, the unique and wonderfully disturbing French short that was the basis of that movie. May be considered a tad too arthouse for some viewers, however, and unlike Delicatessen doesn't resemble Gilliam's style in the slightest.
 
La Jetee is brilliant, and far better than Twelve Monkeys. But it's also in French, unless you watch the atrocious English dub, and since it's constructed (almost) entirely out of still frames rather than moving images it's definitely not for everyone. And it doesn't help that it's only available on a ridiculously priced Criterion DVD. I don't even own it, though I was lucky enough to see it twice (once as a print and once on tape) in film school.
 
Delicatessen is more of a science fiction film, in the sense it's a rather oddball comic dystopia. Don't get me wrong, though, visually strange and conceptually weird enough the 'Terry Gilliam-ish' tag is well deserved - any fan of, say, Brazil should consider giving it a go.

Also maybe Twelve Monkeys fans need to see La Jetee, the unique and wonderfully disturbing French short that was the basis of that movie. May be considered a tad too arthouse for some viewers, however, and unlike Delicatessen doesn't resemble Gilliam's style in the slightest.

I have never heard of Delicatessen, which is why I like threads like this one...I will check it out...

Rob
 
La Jetee is brilliant, and far better than Twelve Monkeys. But it's also in French, unless you watch the atrocious English dub, and since it's constructed (almost) entirely out of still frames rather than moving images it's definitely not for everyone. And it doesn't help that it's only available on a ridiculously priced Criterion DVD. I don't even own it, though I was lucky enough to see it twice (once as a print and once on tape) in film school.
The other problem with La jetée (English: The Jetty or The Pier) outside the original French is that--if I recall correctly-- the French intertitles aren't a perfect match to the narration, and that difference between the two narrative creates some interesting contradictions in the reality of what's happening. The English subtitle translations can affect that contrast with the spoken French.
 
I watched Pitch Black and Dark City off the recommendations in this thread. Pitch Black kind of sucked. Dark City was pretty good. Carry on :)
 
Unless I missed it, I didn't see "Super Nova" mentioned anywhere. I thought it was a very interesting movie and had a pretty good cast.
 
Anyone mention Outland? Sean Connery, Peter Boyle, 'High Noon' in outer space. Not great epic SF adventure, but I like it.
 
Anyone mention Outland? Sean Connery, Peter Boyle, 'High Noon' in outer space. Not great epic SF adventure, but I like it.

Yep...a take-off of High-Noon, and thats putting it kindly, but yeah..I liked it. I also liked this movie that came out about the same time with Peter Strauss and Molly Ringwald, though I dont remember what it was called...

Rob
 
Yep...a take-off of High-Noon, and thats putting it kindly, but yeah..I liked it. I also liked this movie that came out about the same time with Peter Strauss and Molly Ringwald, though I dont remember what it was called...

Rob


SPACEHUNTER: ADVENTURES IN THE FORBIDDEN ZONE.

(Which, as I recall, was originally released in 3-D.)
 
Yep...a take-off of High-Noon, and thats putting it kindly, but yeah..I liked it. I also liked this movie that came out about the same time with Peter Strauss and Molly Ringwald, though I dont remember what it was called...

Rob


SPACEHUNTER: ADVENTURES IN THE FORBIDDEN ZONE.

(Which, as I recall, was originally released in 3-D.)

How come I KNEW you would provide that title. I am going to try and see if its on netflix. It was a pretty good cheapie for its time. And I always like Strauss, who has since passed away. Great actor...

Rob
 
I've actually never seen SPACEHUNTER, but I remember that it opened the weekend before RETURN OF THE JEDI . . . .
 
Demon Seed from 1977 and starring Julie Christie has always seemed to me to be a fascinating and deeply troubling film with excellent production values; Robert Vaughn turns in one of the great computer voices. It also has one of the most audacious premises for a major studio picture.

Beneath The Planet Of The Apes from 1970 really gets wonderfully nutty in its second half with some incredible imagery and ideas (ex. the mutant's "God") and one of the greatest depictions of mind control/telepathy/telekinesis in film. And only Charlton Heston could do what he does at the end of the film.

And another vote for The Monolith Monsters, a great novel premise which seems to scream for the remake treatment.
 
I haven't seen THE MONOLITH MONSTERS for decades, but I remember it fondly. A very innovative idea for a monster movie!
 
We're talking about two different things here - guilty pleasures, and underrated though worthy movies.

My pick for a guilty pleasure in spite of its detractors is The Hidden - I love it so much I have the special edition! :rommie: Great cast headed by Kyle MacLachlin. The Hidden is not groundbreaking by any means, and of course it's cheesey. But its understated charm, humor and scary bits are nicely done. The sequel sucks, however - avoid it.

Speaking of Kyle M, I would rather watch Dune a thousand times than endure 5 minutes of The Fifth Element or Event Horizon ever again. Yes, Dune's a mess, but it's a glorious mess. If we could only lose the Toto soundtrack in the final third I'd be a happy camper. I like it despite its flaws. If you're gonna fail, fail BIG. The good parts are fabulous and everything is intensely weird. I don't care at all for the mini-series.

More guilty pleasure: I enjoy Enemy Mine. Haters be damned.

While it isn't totally successful, AI is so much more interesting to me than several other more successful Spielberg movies. I find it highly compelling for most of its length. It's an interesting and ambitious film, so I cut the man some slack for the ending. I'd rather see an intersting failure than a successful mediocrity any day.

Not only have I see New Zealand's The Quiet Earth (excellent, underseen movie), I've also seen another interesting Kiwi SF film, The Navigator. Good luck finding it.

More from down under - Weir's The Last Wave. Highly lauded in its day, too little seen nowdays. The Truman Show, also from Weir, is a good try, somewhat hamstrung by its leading man.

A favorite SF of mine is Nic Roeg's The Man Who Fell To Earth. You action fans will hate it BTW. Most of the action takes place in the alien hero's mind. But the movie's an enjoyable ride for the adventurous - just don't expect things all neatly tied up at the end.

I see no one has mentioned a favorite dystopian flick of mine, Code 46, a farily recent movie from director Michael Winterbottom. It's not as brilliant as Children of Men, but it's a fine film in its own right (albeit on a smaller scale). While on this subject, I wonder, does the dystopian A Handmaid's Tale also qualify as SF? I like it a lot, as I like the Margaret Atwood book it's based on. Again, a superb cast (Natasha Richardson, Robert Duvall, Elizabeth McGovern, Faye Dunaway) and a Harold Pinter screenplay directed by Volker Schlondorf.

I'm a huge fan of Dark City - must have seen it 10 times in theaters. Get the director's cut without the voice-over if you haven't seen it before.

I also love Amenobar's moody Abres los ojos - it has subtitles, but do see the original Spanish film and avoid the awful American remake with Tom Cruise.

Y'all must be a fairly young crowd. Silent Running, Soylent Green, the early Planet Of The Apes movies were all very well received back in the day. Brazil, while it never had a huge commercial success, was very highly regarded by critics and fans alike - it's one of the original cult favorites and esteemed by film fans who don't generally care for SF.

If you haven't seen it in theaters, see Moon when it comes out on DVD.

EDIT: For those who haven't yet seen these two classics, be sure to catch Videodrome and The Dead Zone, from director David Cronenberg. And while we're talking thrillers, let me also plug the totally neglected Sf/suspense film Seconds, from John Frankenheimer, starring (I kid you not) Rock Hudson in a very affecting performance.
 
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Speaking of Kyle M, I would rather watch Dune a thousand times than endure 5 minutes of The Fifth Element or Event Horizon ever again. Yes, Dune's a mess, but it's a glorious mess.

Quite. As far as ambituous but-not-quite succesful sci-fi films go, Dune is one of the best, and a film I've honestly enjoyed watching more than once.

But The Fifth Element... yeah. Luc Besson, you had a goofily Moebius visual style, cool looking aliens, Bruce Willis and Milla Jovovich - how did you make this so completely unwatchable?

EDIT: For those who haven't yet seen these two classics, be sure to catch Videodrome and The Dead Zone, from director David Cronenberg.
eXistenZ is also nice.
 
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned Alphaville, a critical success despite being French Noir.
 
Speaking of Kyle M, I would rather watch Dune a thousand times than endure 5 minutes of The Fifth Element or Event Horizon ever again. Yes, Dune's a mess, but it's a glorious mess. If we could only lose the Toto soundtrack in the final third I'd be a happy camper. I like it despite its flaws. If you're gonna fail, fail BIG. The good parts are fabulous and everything is intensely weird. I don't care at all for the mini-series.

You joke, yes? The Toto soundtrack was one of the best parts!

While 'Event Horizon' is far from my favourite film (Sam Neill should win an award for least convincing scream) I don't get all the hate for 'The Fifth Element', nor do I really think it's underrated. As I recall it did ok when it came out and has dated somewhat better than other blockbuster releases from around the same time.

As for Dune...yes it is a glorious mess and initially it took be about 4 goes to see it all the way through but it allowed be to finally get into the book (which took 6 goes) and for that alone it deserves praise. ANY adaption that makes you want to read the original book is worth the effort, even if your reaction afterwards is "why wasn't the film this good?". I will say though, that while there's a lot there to poke holes in, some of the characterization seamed dead-on to me. Thufir, Stilgar, Kynes, Jessica (mostly), and Paul were, from an acting standpoint, very faithful to the book IMO.
The mini-series...not so much. Too many huge floppy Sardukar hats and theatre production values, with the pinted backdrops, primary coloured lights and Fremen with annoying squeaky British accents. 'Children of Dune' on the other hand was firing on all cylinders, even if it was a little disappointing we never got to see the full-on sandtrout stillsuit.
 
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Alphaville, a critical success despite being French Noir.

Well, let's be fair. It was Jean-luc Goddard. It came out in the 1960s. The critics were going to eat it up whatever it was. Although reactions were surprisingly mixed when Alphaville debuted.

To be honest, I don't think it's going to be your thing, RobertScorpio. But I'll be pleasantly surprised if you prove me wrong.
 
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