Moments that really made you cringe or disliked

No. It means they're talking out their ass.

If I knew someone who could write a great story, I would certainly want that person to be KNOWN.

That doesn't make me short sighted. It makes me curious.

Wouldn't you want to know who that person was?? And what other stories they've written??

 

Having a lot of money does not mean that you eventually won't hit a budgetary wall. And given how much money was obviously spent everywhere else on the film, I think a reasonable person can see where they would at some point hit a budgetary wall and have to make choices and compromise to keep from going over-budget.

A fact which has no bearing on the discussion at hand.

Scotty's engine room is not iconic. Scotty's Jeffrey's tube is iconic. Not his engine room, which is a very generic, boring-looking space in TOS.

Yes.

 

So you've really got nothing but a deep seated bitterness about how you never "made it," so you resort to insults and insinuations.

Hey... You are the one going on about how you would have done this, that and the other thing differently and all I'm saying is: Prove it.

That's right, you can't. So instead of being proud of the work that you've done, you're going to call me a fool??

There are plenty of people who post stuff that they've done, because they are proud of what they can do..You obviously are ashamed.

Except, that was not what I was saying. You said there must be loads of people out there who have great ideas...no wait..BETTER ideas.. And I asked you to tell me who they are and point me to what they've done so I can check it out.

Once again you've got nothing. As expected.

 

The idea that only Abram's & Co. are capable of producing a decent Star Trek movie is mental.

Abram's isn't even directing the next one. Who is? We don't know.

OMIGOD IT WILL BE SHIT

 

It should also be noted that the SW and LOTR films were shot back to back to save money and take advantage of location and resources.

A great deal of ST XI's money went for special effects.. Did you see the miles of credits given to animators and rotoscopers...

Yeah, I would have liked to have seen an engine room that looked a little more futuristic, but I already knew it was a brewery before I saw it. I am willing to admit that knowing that colours my opinion of it. I don't think anyone else is willing to admit that, because they are to busy hating on it..

And yes it is possible to run out of money making a film..any film. Those sandwiches don't make themselves!!

 

I don't know what else to do. I gave you three names for a start. Look them up for yourself. I can give you many other names if I really cared. But I also realize I can show you anything, you will always be able to say "But that's not better.", you know that, I know that. So it's pointless.



I don't think I even understand your logic. If you strip Abrams from 150 million down to nothing, to a camcorder and his garage, what do you think will he be able to create with that?

 

And who was saying that??

Well you've already made up your mind..we can all go home now.

 

Oddly, I didn't really have a problem with the aesthetic of the engine room. I could've done without the comedy whizzing around through pipes (would that have happened in ANY other film or episode of Star Trek?) I usually give credit where credits due for filmmakers making the best possible use of what they have to work with.

 

Going back and editing your post to include names and then claiming that you did so after I asked you three times is a bit dishonest.. But to your point, Yes I would have loved to see Nick Meyer do another Star Trek and not James Cawley..Blood and Fire is a major improvement, but he relies way too much on stunt casting as a gimmick. I am looking forward to his version of Mind Sifter, one of my favorite fan stories from the 70s. I like some of Bennet's work, but I don't think he's up to the task of writing a major motion picture that would appeal to anything beyond the fanbase.

Cloverfield.

 

Cloverfield had a budget of 25 million dollars, you... aw, God. KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!

 

Funny you should bring up Khan, which was made with one seventh the budget of TMP.

 

LOL See, there is the futility of naming who could write a great Star Trek movie; they just get shot down because they haven't written a great Star Trek movie.

 

I never had a problem with pipe scene. I could have honestly seen that happening in Star Trek IV.

 

The turboshaft scene in TFF comes to mind, as does the chase scenes in TVH, not to mention the Dax scene in TUC...should I go on??

When??
I haven't seen you post anything positive ever.

 

As is claiming I edited that post when I in fact didn't. At least I can't see a line under that specific post that says "Last edited by JarodRussell..." Who's dishonest?

 

Just then when I said that I didn't mind the engine room?

 

I quoted you directly and those names weren't there. The "last edited" notation doesn't happen all the time..and you know that.

I just edited this.

 

It took you 16 pages to write something positive.

BTW, Jarod, I edited this post just now.. three times.

 

So you do agree that I edited it before I was able to read your own reply to it. Why is it my fault that you quote me faster than I can type?

 

And you still haven't answered my question. What would Abrams be able to do without any budget and no company like Paramount supporting him? Your answer was a movie with a 25 million budget, very smart.