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House, MD. 6x01-02: "Broken" - Discussion and Spoilers

Grade the episode

  • Excellent

    Votes: 38 71.7%
  • Good

    Votes: 11 20.8%
  • Average

    Votes: 3 5.7%
  • Bad

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Terrible

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Total voters
    53
I would have loved if Amber made an appearance on the bus with House at the end.

If not Amber than at least some reference to his past bus ride.

"Once again, I'm on another bus that might or might not crash."

He couldn't have called Wilson to pick him up?
 
I gave that an "Excellent". I wasn't bothering about any technicalities of mental institution practices or plot logics because I was too caught up in the emotion of the story and characters. I loved it, and hope the rest of the season can give us equally charged stories.

My DVR decided to stop recording before the episode was completely over. The last thing I saw was House on the bus, leaving the institution. Obviously I missed the previews, but did anything of significance happen on the bus or shortly thereafter?
No. That was pretty much the last shot. Only the credits/preview after that.
 
Excellent. I, too, thought that the institution arc might continue for another couple of eps, but I agree that, at least for the first half of the season, the time will be spent with the other characters dealing with House's "change". I'm sure they will all think it's an act on the outset.

Definitely also a missed opportunity to have Amber in the beginning, tormenting him during his detox, and maybe feeding him smarmy comments during group.
 
I agree that, at least for the first half of the season, the time will be spent with the other characters dealing with House's "change". I'm sure they will all think it's an act on the outset.

That's what I'm thinking too, clearly there are some good stories to tell there. But long term, then what? If House has been permanently altered by his time in the institution then will this also alter the character and show in such a way that he's not as entertaining?

Or in the alternative, House reverts back to broken House, then is there no hope for House to "get unbroken" and is always doomed to be a jackass? Either way, this seemed like a perilous route for the writers/producer to take this year. Perhaps they are intending on this being the final season and just haven't shared that info with us.
 
Episodes like these where the main character has gone away and by the end of the episode is back to familiar ground irk me.

It's like Picard as Locutus. He only spent two episodes as Locutus. How cool would it have been if it were 6 episodes.

I suppose if House started working at the psych ward the show would turn into "Mental"

If the writers of TNG had any balls at all, Locutus would have been a permanent thing (maybe even needing to be killed), with Riker permanently taking over as Captain.
 
Look, I love House, but even if the show has to end after this season I want to see lasting changes from this. If a show can't grow it needs to die, and seriously...with the exception of swapping out the doclings, most any episode in S1-5 can be swapped with any other episode and no one would likely notice (excluding the painful arc stories). Put in simpler terms....going back to status quo would be lame on an unparalleled level.
I'm of the opposite opinion. I think the show works best when it sticks to the formula established in the first season. The show doesn't need high drama, all it needs is Hugh Laurie's Dr. House and the mystery of the week. We want to see House and we want to see him win. That's a big part of the appeal. It loses a lot of that when they try to throw in too much drama.

I agree fully. People keep talking about changing, formulas, etc. For me, I got into this show because of the House character, and Laurie's potrayal of him, and just his misanthropic absurdity being a process to solve mysterious medical cases. What "change" is needed? That's the show! If all this experience does is make House more like his S1 self (ang again, there's a marked difference between S1 House and S5 house) then that's fine, but I don't really want to see him as a "happy" guy who's open to sharing feelings and isn't an ass. That's who House is supposed to be. An ass.

Make some changes, minor ones, sure, but I still want to see the man who manipulates and has a bizzare thought-process. The brilliant world-reknowned, diagnostician we're told he his and seen him to be.
 
I wish he would stay in there for another 10-15 episodes, it was that good.

Also good we got House and more House and interesting side characters instead of the asshole side characters we normally get.
 
Episodes like these where the main character has gone away and by the end of the episode is back to familiar ground irk me.

It's like Picard as Locutus. He only spent two episodes as Locutus. How cool would it have been if it were 6 episodes.

I suppose if House started working at the psych ward the show would turn into "Mental"

If the writers of TNG had any balls at all, Locutus would have been a permanent thing (maybe even needing to be killed), with Riker permanently taking over as Captain.
Well, this almost happened. They turned Picard into Locutus in BoBW Pt. 1 because Patrick Stewart's contract was up at the time, and they weren't sure they could get him back. So they had a way to write him out of the show if he couldn't be signed. Not sure if the actress who played Shelby would have become a permanent cast member, though.
 
If the writers of TNG had any balls at all, Locutus would have been a permanent thing (maybe even needing to be killed), with Riker permanently taking over as Captain.

Why ? Stewart was doing a great job you don't have to have balls to kill someone off (Trips death shows that).
 
Well I thought it was a great episode, brilliant acting and a nice storyline, but it was a good episode, not a good episode of House. In fact, it wasn't really an episode of House at all, it was sick drug addict in rehab.

As good as it was, I was distracted a bit, by constantly wanting to get back to the other 7 characters and the show.

For those who say the format needs to change, are you sure we're watching the same show? The hospital, the patients, the illnesses are only secondary to the interactions between the characters that make up the show. A background, an environment to contain them, and the format allows the show to be so good. Changing it would not be a good idea IMO.

And while House does need to become slightly nicer, if only to make it seem like the rehab did him any good, him being a pill popping limping jerk who's also a medical genius is what makes him so fun to watch. If he wasn't commenting on cuddy's breasts or spiking wilson's coffee, or getting a patient drunk to test their organs, then he really wouldn't be House, his rudeness makes him popular, make him nice and kind and he becomes boring.

He's dealt with some personal issues, and gotten to be a little bit of a better person, but don't expect any changes to his personality, except maybe a tiny bit happier. But then, being miserable or whatever is another part of his character...

Either way, I can't wait for next Monday
 
Episodes like these where the main character has gone away and by the end of the episode is back to familiar ground irk me.

It's like Picard as Locutus. He only spent two episodes as Locutus. How cool would it have been if it were 6 episodes.

I suppose if House started working at the psych ward the show would turn into "Mental"

If the writers of TNG had any balls at all, Locutus would have been a permanent thing (maybe even needing to be killed), with Riker permanently taking over as Captain.

Indeed.
 
I wish he would stay in there for another 10-15 episodes, it was that good.

Also good we got House and more House and interesting side characters instead of the asshole side characters we normally get.

Half od a season of this? I think that'd be a bit much considering the entire premise of the show is House solving medical mysteries.

Well I thought it was a great episode, brilliant acting and a nice storyline, but it was a good episode, not a good episode of House. In fact, it wasn't really an episode of House at all, it was sick drug addict in rehab.

As good as it was, I was distracted a bit, by constantly wanting to get back to the other 7 characters and the show.

For those who say the format needs to change, are you sure we're watching the same show? The hospital, the patients, the illnesses are only secondary to the interactions between the characters that make up the show. A background, an environment to contain them, and the format allows the show to be so good. Changing it would not be a good idea IMO.

And while House does need to become slightly nicer, if only to make it seem like the rehab did him any good, him being a pill popping limping jerk who's also a medical genius is what makes him so fun to watch. If he wasn't commenting on cuddy's breasts or spiking wilson's coffee, or getting a patient drunk to test their organs, then he really wouldn't be House, his rudeness makes him popular, make him nice and kind and he becomes boring.

He's dealt with some personal issues, and gotten to be a little bit of a better person, but don't expect any changes to his personality, except maybe a tiny bit happier. But then, being miserable or whatever is another part of his character...

Either way, I can't wait for next Monday

Well said!
 
I wish he would stay in there for another 10-15 episodes, it was that good.

Also good we got House and more House and interesting side characters instead of the asshole side characters we normally get.

Half od a season of this? I think that'd be a bit much considering the entire premise of the show is House solving medical mysteries.

No, it's not. The premise of the show is the character of House. Recall that originally the show was supposed to be like CSI hence the characters often breaking into people's homes back in the first season.

Any TV show needs to evolve and change.
 
Yeah these two episodes showed that they can introduce crazy good characters ad not the lame doctors we have back at the hospital. The show is about House and it was shown that the show only needs House. It would have saved on money, and would have been interesting. I still like the idea of House retiring and opening up a bar with Wilson, copying the Archie Bunker Place. :)
 
One simple thing that made this one great.

House didn't "win".

He wasn't allowed to win by disrupting the ward and he wasn't allowed to win by pretending to play along. As much as all the other things that happened, he got a lesson in humility.

THAT is why I will be severely disappointed if it goes back to status quo. Changing House doesn't mean turning him into a pod person as some seem to think, he can still be sarcastic and funny.
 
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