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Rebooting Voyager - a popular idea?

Danlav05

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In several threads on here there are several ideas to reboot Star Trek: Voyager.

It's interesting to see that this is the most sought-after reboot, probably more than TOS.

I think it could make a good fan film, but what could be improved about Voyager, and how would you do it?
 
I hate re-booting and I hate the idea of re-booting Voyager more than anything else.

The series wasn't perfect as it was, there were a lot of things in it which I didn't like but re-booting it with second-hand actors and writers who would probably adjust to the current "doom and gloom" trend would result in a total disaster.
 
The only thing I would change is the relation ship between Janeway and Chakotay would have been a real male female relationship.

Brit
 
I don't get why anyone would want to do this. What's so wrong with new ideas? Voyager ended less than ten years ago, I think that's way too early for a reboot. It's not a cult classic like TOS, it's just a good TV show that ended its run a while back. Rebooting TOS makes sense ... VOY, not so much.
 
A new trek series? Yes. A reboot of Voyager? No.

All they could do is copy ideas from NuBSG, and besides, Voyager was a long-running series and still has a healthy fanbase. It might have been a missed opportunity for some, but it's over now. Done. Finished. Leave it alone.
 
What Kes7 said. It's a nice exercise on a message board, but it won't actually happen, and I don't even want it to happen. It was made, it was flawed, but there were some great bits. Let it be.
 
Although it was one of my favorite Trek's, I agree that the idea of rebooting it entirely should be left for the most part alone. Maybe a movie about the Voyager crew after they got back home? On the motion picture front, I'm getting a little tired of the Kirk Kirk Kirk Picard Picard Kirk Kirk Picard Picard Picard Picard Kirk act.
 
Maybe a movie about the Voyager crew after they got back home? On the motion picture front, I'm getting a little tired of the Kirk Kirk Kirk Picard Picard Kirk Kirk Picard Picard Picard Picard Kirk act.

Yeah, I agree with you!
They wrapped it up too quickly, and I think there's an audience for a mini series or movie. :)
 
In several threads on here there are several ideas to reboot Star Trek: Voyager.

It's interesting to see that this is the most sought-after reboot, probably more than TOS.

I think it could make a good fan film, but what could be improved about Voyager, and how would you do it?
I think the reason behind these ideas is that Voyager had actually a very interesting and very compelling concept, but its execution was sometimes lacking. Not bad, just a bit bland (for my tastes, obviously).

Conflicts between Starfleet and Maquis crew? Forget that. Refueling and repairs concerns? Nah. Innovative, compelling story-telling? Maybe once or twice a year.

I don't dislike Voyager, but sometimes I wish they did something different with the show, something I never had with TNG or DS9.

Now, rebooting with a fan film? I don't think it would be a good idea.
 
In the spirit of the original post here's what I would do if I had the chance to be show runner on a voyager reboot. I would change everything except for the original concept.

I like the idea of a mixed crew lost in space with slim to no hope of finding their way home (BSG anyone).

The first thing I would change is the time period. The problem with TNG-VOY time period from a dramatic point of view is that technology makes life too easy and people get along too well. If you amp up hardship and conflict you increase the drama. On TV, drama = interest = ratings.

I would set the show in the TOS movie era. 1) We as fans are familiar with and perhaps nostalgic for the time period. (We only got to visit the era six times in the TOS movies) 2) Humans of this era are still hampered with the same weaknesses we have today (prejudice, fear, greed, lust, etc.) Therefore the characters will be more relatable to the audience and more prone to dramatic conflict. And 3) I personally find this era to be the most visually exciting era. The ships are cool, (refit-A, Reliant), the uniforms are cool although I would like to see a less formal class B utilized as well as the red jackets. The sets are great (Bridge, engineering, sickbay)

I would use a smaller ship than the refit. Small ship = less supplies = more hardship = more drama. I would be tempted to use a miranda, even the Reliant herself, but I think smaller would be better and a new starship would be more interesting. A refit style Saladin would be my choice.

As for the crew, to tie this show in to the established Trek, I would make Savik the Captain. I think it would be cool to see what happened to her after ST-IV. And it would tie in well to my next casting change.

We obviously can't use the Marquis so I would swap them out with Romulans. They can be prisoners rescued after a boarder skirmesh or terrorist testing a new plasma weapon that went wrong. What is important is how the half Vulcan/half Romulan Savik deals with them. And how their presence contributes to her internal conflict with her own mixed heritage.

As for the rest of the crew, instead of the new alien of the series character, I would populate the crew with TOS federation aliens. A Tellarite and Andorian regulars would provide interesting story material since we never got to explore their cultures on screen in depth. An escaped Orion Slave girl serving as a Starfleet officer could also prove to be interesting.

And finally and most importantly, no reset button. If we loose a shuttle it's lost. Fire a torpedo it's gone. Bridge gets damaged it stays damaged. Of course our crew will turn part of the ship into a working machine room (how cool will that set look) and build a reasonable facimilie of the gear, but they won't be the same. The bridge in the series finale will not be the same pristine command center seen in the pilot. Quite the opposite in fact. When our ship returns it will be held together by spit and duct tape.
 
tommulligan, the only two parts I agree with are that they shouldn't've had the reset button (or at least used it so damn much) and having more alien mains. Everything else you suggest would, for me, make Voyager MUCH less interesting. Then again, this coming from someone who just thinks TOS is inherently less entertaining in some ways than the 24th-century shows, so take it as you will.

Although I do think it is too bad that Saavik sorta dropped out of existence after her brief part in Star Trek IV. I wouldn't've minded seeing more of her (particularly since this is the Robin Curtis ver.).
 
I find both eras entertaining in their own ways. With a Voyager type show 24th century tech ties the hands of the writers. A quick example being, ships water supply gets contaminated. On a 24th century ship all you have to do is find some rocks use the transporters to convert them into energy send it to the replicators insert some technobable problem solved in five minutes rest of the episode is spent trying to make the holographic doctor more human again. We did seven years of data those stories are played out.

On a 23 century ship we have to physically find water some where fast. Crew goes to closest planet, find a 20th century equivalent civilization. No way to get water without being detected. Does survival trump prime directive? Will the non-starfleet crew go along if Captain decides to risk looking for another water source? Will her decision result in a mutiny? What happens when they make contact?

Both eras are cool. I think 23rd lends itself to more possibilities.
 
I would be glad to see any new Trek.

Yes, but in that case a new series with a new ship and new characters.
to further your thought, in the prime time line and that takes place post-VOY/NEM. i realize this is sacrilege but i could care less about things that happened before TNG anymore. plus, the problem with doing anything pre-TNG is that you can run into canon problems such as the case that happened time and again with ENT. just keep moving the time line forward.
 
I would be glad to see any new Trek.

Yes, but in that case a new series with a new ship and new characters.
to further your thought, in the prime time line and that takes place post-VOY/NEM. i realize this is sacrilege but i could care less about things that happened before TNG anymore. plus, the problem with doing anything pre-TNG is that you can run into canon problems such as the case that happened time and again with ENT. just keep moving the time line forward.

I have to agree here. One of my problems with "Enterprise" was the constant screwing-up of established Trek history. I can clearly see the limitations and the constant checking of Star Trek history which the writers have to face if they come up with a series which takes place pre-TNG.

I must also come up with some comments to tommmulligan's suggstions for a re-booted Voyager which would take place in the TOS timeline. With such a scenario, wouldn't it be better to have an entirely new crew and new ship getting lost in the TOS era instead of some re-booted Voyager?

OK, that comment contradicts my previous statement about the difficulties in coming up with a pre-TNG series due to the problems with established Trek history but in that case, maybe a mini-series where a ship got lost in Klingon space or so and wouldn't run into some species which were discovered or contacted in the TNG era.
 
Frankly, I don't think any of the series, including VOY, should or will be rebooted. TOS was rebooted because it was the frst, and has an iconic status with the general public. Ask someone on the street if they've heard of Kirk, Spock, McCoy, or Scotty, and many will recognize those names. If you ask them who Janeway, Chakotay, Tuvok, or Seven are, a few might know of Seven, kind of, but not the others. Besides, we have plenty of VOY eps and novels.

Now, having said that, I'll play. If for some reason VOY were rebooted, these are the changes I'd make:

-Consistently write Janeway to establish exactly what kind of captain she is -- maverick like Kirk, rule-follower like Picard, or something else.

-Have Seven join the crew from the beginning, as a Borg who's separated from the Collective but has been unable to reestablish contact (an irreparable malfunction in her homing system);

-Keep Seven Borgified instead of a hot blonde in a catsuit with bits of Borg circuitry;

-Give Chakotay a real Native American background instead of all that Akoochimaya (sp?) mumbo-jumbo;

-Make Neelix a top pilot and trader who really knows a vaster swath of the Delta Quadrant and not just Cookie in space (have members of the crew all take turns doing mess hall duty);

-Have the Maquis not so easily integrate into the regular crew;

-Have more conflict between Chakotay and Janeway;

-Promote Kim, for crying out loud (have him first replace the dead ops officer and get a promotion right on the spot from ensign to full lieutenant)!

-And for Chrissakes, have all the crew have some kind of issues and express their feelings (in other words, get rid of that dumb directive from TPTB that only the alien characters should show emotion!)

Aside from that, I liked the crew the way it was.

Red Ranger
 
My point was a new ship, new crew, new time period, I'd even give it a new name.

I don't see there being many cannon issues with throwing this tiny ship out into the middle of nowhere. They'll be away from the Federation and fan known history. The only restriction on stories would be no TNG era aliens.

The reason why Enterprise ran into so many cannon issues is that B&B believed their work was above previous Trek and didn't respect what came before.
 
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