Tasha Yar Development

[Christopher]

Actually, Worf as engineer might've been a nice approach, since it could've gotten him away from all the stereotyped Klingon bluster and machismo and let him be portrayed more as an intelligent problem-solver.

But if that had happened, we wouldn't have had B'Elanna Torres, at least not in the engineer role, since it would've been seen as repetitive. Hey, maybe she would've been security chief then and Tuvok would've been the engineer.

 

[JB2005]

^ Worf as the Counsellor. Break the stereotype completely.

 

[T'Girl]

Tasha would of stayed in security, it was her karma. If she didn't stay Datas' lover, she would of become his best friend instead of Geordi. She would of been the one to help Data with his journey towards human understanding, and as a women, better equipt in explaining emotion and feeling.

Worf would of become chief medical officer after Dr. Crucher left for Starfleet medical, instead of Dr Pulaski. Remember what a fine job he did delivering Keikos' baby?

She would've wound up on Deep Space Nine instead of Worf. -- RR

And hooked up with Jadzia instead of Worf?

God that would of been so hot.

This could of been Star Treks' chance to show a long term, well thought out gay relationship. Not a passing story line blurp, or fanfic slash, but something that could of started slow and developed over more than one season. Tasha could easily replace Worf in many episodes.

Rule of engagement would have been better with Tasha in charge of the Defiant, and on trial, facing a death sentance in the Klingon empire.

Looking for par'Mach in all the wrong places, both Tasha and Jadzia could go after Grilka (Quarks wife), perhaps resulting in a offscreen three-way, which would of sent all three of them to the infirmary.

They would of eventual have been married, bringing gay marrage into the DS9-verse.
At the wedding both Tasha and Jadzia, of course, would have worn red leather!

Change of heart is another episode that actual works better with Yar and Dax. Tasha the emotional, high charged security officer, Jadzia the more mature, thoughtful science officer.

 

[Christopher]

Tasha would of stayed in security, it was her karma. If she didn't stay Datas' lover, she would of become his best friend instead of Geordi.

Geordi was set up as Data's best friend from the beginning of the series, so that probably wouldn't have changed. If anything, look at "The Naked Now" -- it looks like they're hinting at a possible Geordi-Tasha attraction there.

She would of been the one to help Data with his journey towards human understanding, and as a women, better equipt in explaining emotion and feeling.

I think that's a rather stereotyped assumption. Given her traumatic upbringing, her emotional health would not be great and she'd probably have closed off a lot of her emotions, learned to be detached and unfeeling as a defense mechanism.

Rule of engagement would have been better with Tasha in charge of the Defiant, and on trial, facing a death sentance in the Klingon empire.

Again, that episode, and probably the whole Klingon arc, would never have existed if Worf hadn't come to DS9. They didn't start with plots and shoehorn characters into them, they started with the characters and devised plots that would serve to develop and explore them. "Rules of Engagement" was very specifically about Worf -- about his estrangement from his people, about him being torn between his Klingon and Federation halves. Take away Worf from DS9 and that episode never exists. The whole final four years of the series unfold differently. The Klingons never become major players in DS9, the character of Martok never exists, Cardassia isn't invaded, the Khitomer Accords are never broken, Gowron probably stays in power, and the Dominion War probably starts a year sooner because the producers don't need to derail their plans for that arc in order to come up with Klingon-centric stories to justify adding Worf to the cast.

 

[Plecostomus]

^ And let the bad jokes commence

"There is no honor in recrystallizing the dilithum!"
"Nice warp factor."
"Nice crystals."
"Today is a good day to push the warp engines!"
"Ah, a warrior's equation."

Worf sealing a core-breach by glaring at.

Worf ejecting the warp core by lifting it out of the frame and drop kicking it out of the airlock.

...

 

[Odo You Didn't!]

She would of been the one to help Data with his journey towards human understanding, and as a women, better equipt in explaining emotion and feeling.

I think that's a rather stereotyped assumption. Given her traumatic upbringing, her emotional health would not be great and she'd probably have closed off a lot of her emotions, learned to be detached and unfeeling as a defense mechanism.

I agree with this, Geordi always came across to me as a much more open character, I think he was better equipped to teach Data about emotions because his were much more readable and openly expressed than Tasha's.

Aw, Geordi was ace

 

[Thestral]

I love the idea of keeping Tasha and developing her over the show - especially like the idea of her mentoring Ro and maybe ending up on DS9. Having her be betrayed by Ro in Preemptive Strike might be a nice twist as well.

OTOH, I would still want to see Worf given the serious attention and character development he was over the years. His conversation with Ezri in "Tacking Into the Wind" really is the culmination of years of character/cultural development across DS9 and TNG, and I wouldn't want to see that lost.

Worf as Chief Engineer? I dig it, but wouldn't want to lose what (little) development Geordi was given.

Of course, keeping La Forge on the bridge might lead to more exploration of Geordi in command a la "The Arsenal of Freedom." And following up on the (potential, hinted) La Forge-Yar connection from "Naked Now" might put to rest my only (adult) complaint about the character.

 

[DWF]

She would of been the one to help Data with his journey towards human understanding, and as a women, better equipt in explaining emotion and feeling.

I think that's a rather stereotyped assumption. Given her traumatic upbringing, her emotional health would not be great and she'd probably have closed off a lot of her emotions, learned to be detached and unfeeling as a defense mechanism.

I agree with this, Geordi always came across to me as a much more open character, I think he was better equipped to teach Data about emotions because his were much more readable and openly expressed than Tasha's.

Aw, Geordi was ace

I never got the impression that Tasha held anything back even talking back to Q at their trial in Encounter At Farpoint.

 

[Odo You Didn't!]

^ Well Geordi always came across to me as more open and less restrained in all situations he was in, that's how I remember it. His emotions just came out, like his whoops and yippees, and I got the overriding impression that sometimes he just couldn't contain himself, like all his emotions were bubbling just under the surface. Yes, Tasha talked back to Q, which demonstrates not holding back, but I thought that a lot of the time, unless the emotion was anger or aggression I sometimes had the impression that she was holding back, or showing a response that was more measured or appropriate to the situation. She was impetuous, and sometimes she let go, but I think Geordi was more emotionally free than Tasha. I'm trying to think of an example to illustrate my meaning, so I'll have to come back to this. Bottom line - I'm not saying she didn't show emotion, I'm just saying I think Geordi was freer with it than she was, is all. *shrugs*

 

[Christopher]

^And regardless of the individual characters, it's just stereotyped to assume that every woman is automatically better at understanding emotion than every man, as if having two X chromosomes were all it took to be emotionally healthy. As a man who's very much in touch with my emotions, I object to that generalization.

 

[Odo You Didn't!]

^ And as a woman who's pretty guarded, so do I. I didn't mention it because as we both will know, the fact that assumption is utterly ridiculous goes without saying

 

[DWF]

^And regardless of the individual characters, it's just stereotyped to assume that every woman is automatically better at understanding emotion than every man, as if having two X chromosomes were all it took to be emotionally healthy. As a man who's very much in touch with my emotions, I object to that generalization.

I don't think that was true of Tasha though, she certainly more open with her feelings than Troi was, Troi always seemed far more reserved with feelings it gave her an astrocratic air that Riker described in The Loss.

 

[Maurice]

...she would of become his best friend instead of Geordi. She would of been the one to help Data ...

Worf would of become chief medical officer...

...God that would of been so hot.

This could of been Star Treks' chance .... something that could of started slow and developed

...They would of eventual have been married...

Every time you use "of" when you mean "have" Rabbi Gornstein eats a kitten.

 

[Nightdiamond]

As for what encounters would happen in the episodes, Yesterdays' Enterprise may have not been aired. We would have seen her come face to face with her sister in Legacy.

We would have got see her in Best of Both Worlds, which I think would have been interesting.



Career wise? Geordi might have been promoted ahead of her, or if she followed Worf's promotion pattern, would have been promoted to Lt. Commander at the same times as Geordi.

That meant we would have seen her in the chair more.

Wow, so many changes and opportunies depending on her abscence or appearence!

 

[docclan1]

guys..let it go, yar was shite plus she had the hair cut of a young boy.......................oh wait!!!i get it!!!thats why some of you se cant let her go!

 

[Anji]

As much as I hate to admit it she would've ended up as Data's girlfriend. I site the treatment (and humiliation) of Beverly Crusher and Deanna Troi.

I would've loved to see her paired up with Picard. You gotta admit, there were sparks.

 

[JB2005]

guys..let it go, yar was shite plus she had the hair cut of a young boy.......................oh wait!!!i get it!!!thats why some of you se cant let her go!

[sarcasm] thank god some people still know the art of reasonable debate [/sarcasm]

 

[RandyS]

guys..let it go, yar was shite plus she had the hair cut of a young boy.......................oh wait!!!i get it!!!thats why some of you se cant let her go!

Hey, I didn't much like her haircut either, but she was hardly shit. Even now, twenty-one years after the fact, I wish she had stayed on the show.

And, I'm looking forward to the time when the TNG novels do what the TOS novels do: go back and tell new stories set in the time frame of the series and occasionally do one or two in the first season so Tasha can be a part of it.

 

[Dream]

guys..let it go, yar was shite plus she had the hair cut of a young boy.......................oh wait!!!i get it!!!thats why some of you se cant let her go!

Hey, I didn't much like her haircut either, but she was hardly shit. Even now, twenty-one years after the fact, I wish she had stayed on the show.

And, I'm looking forward to the time when the TNG novels do what the TOS novels do: go back and tell new stories set in the time frame of the series and occasionally do one or two in the first season so Tasha can be a part of it.

I think some fans are pissed that Denise Crosby was the actress that quit TNG during it's first season. I don't hold that against her. I'll admit that the first season of TNG was poor but she should have really stayed like the rest of the cast. Starting with season three TNG really turned great.

 

[Christopher]

I, for one, really liked Tasha's first-season haircut. The shape of Denise Crosby's face just doesn't work that well with longer hair, but with really, really short hair, she was attractive.