Generations: why I love/hate it

[Yeoman Randi]

^ But i think he does make that realization. I really don't believe he has to actually say, "well i've learned my lesson. Things dont mean squat! Its family that means everything!". The scenes he has with Troi (in his ready room), with Soren (both in ten forward and on the planet), with Riker at the end....it all culminates to one thought. That it is family, friends and how one lives his life that is more important. In fact, he does actually say, "What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived."

And when a loved one dies, it is only human nature to prioritize differently. I really think that comes across in the film. I don't believe it was necessary to actually verbalize it.

 

[Gojira]

I didn't vote, none of the options fit how I feel. I really like it, I don't love it, nor do I feel it is the best Trek movie.

Like any Trek movie there are some plot holes in it. I didn't care the way Kirk died in the movie and plus the way Kirk was acting while in the Nexus seemed a bit out of character for him.

 

[JohanKoch]

Generations was a mediocre script executed to within an inch of perfection. A firm favourite of mine.

That's as good a description of Generations that I've read yet...

I remember reading some complaints about the the cheapness of the film. Namely, most of the sets were just redressed from the TV show, and since they weren't built to feature-film standards, that led to a lot of dim lighting to hide the flaws. But I liked the dim lighting. Picard and Troi's conversation after his brother's death in a nearly-pitch black office was a powerful scene (made even better by the sudden flare of light from the exploding sun).

Personally, I'm sad they made the decision to trash the Enterprise-D, rather than to take the time to build new sets and models for future films.

I like this film, despite it's flaws. The first 3/4 of the film is very professionally made and mature, and the battle with the Klingons and subsequent crash of the Enterprise is actually quite exciting. Too bad the rest of the film from that point on feels a little anticlimactic. Kirk and Picard running around in the nexus, and later fighting Soran, was never terribly exciting.

 

[KirkSpockTOSFan]

I actually love the movie, its one my favorites besides Star Trek XI, The Voyage Home, Final Frontier and Nemeis. I like everything about the movie. There are some charcters I was missing at the begaing, you know Spock and Bones, I know they were not in the movie but they should've been. Plus that part where Kirk dies in later part of the movie, that part made me sad, as he's my favorite Captain. Where was Spock and Bones?

 

[apenpaap]

Where was Spock and Bones?

They considered their roles to small, so their lines were given to Scott and Chekov.

 

[Hober Mallow]

Generations had the most promise of all the TNG movies, but suffered from a lack of focus.

Generations is a collection of great scenes which don't mesh into a great story. I love to watch the movie, but if you put any thought into it the whole thing falls apart.

Exactly. Unfortunately, they built the script from a laundry list of things they wanted to include -- Kirk, Ent-B, Klingon sisters, opening holodeck scene, Guinan, the Ent blowing up -- rather than allowing a focused story to develop naturally.

Secondly, Kirk should've been the one talking Picard into leaving...

This would have been a huge improvement. The whole story up until that point set Picard up to long for another life, a life where he could settle down with a family. Kirk, as the elder, should have represented the mythological guide, the Vergil to Picard's Dante, guiding him away from the temptations of the Nexus and putting him back on track.

 

[Cyke101]

^ Kirk's Virgil to Picard's Dante... I love that idea!

Anyway, I just thought of a red herring: an opening holodeck scene in which the Enterprise-D blows up. Simulation ends, and suddenly we find the ship just fine and dandy. Later on, when there's the (supposedly) climactic battle with the Klingons, then BOOM! The real death of the Enterprise! We'd see the holodeck in a bigger and more vast way than ever portrayed on screen, for one thing.

However, it might echo too much from TWOK, in which Spock himself died twice.

 

[EJA]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: KILLING OFF LURSA AND B'ETOR SUCKED!!!!!!

Also, Kirk's role was a total letdown.

 

[ultimateguinan]

Generations was epic and a great character piece for Picard and an intriguing story. Loved Soran.

 

[Hober Mallow]

^ Kirk's Virgil to Picard's Dante... I love that idea!

Anyway, I just thought of a red herring: an opening holodeck scene in which the Enterprise-D blows up. Simulation ends, and suddenly we find the ship just fine and dandy. Later on, when there's the (supposedly) climactic battle with the Klingons, then BOOM! The real death of the Enterprise! We'd see the holodeck in a bigger and more vast way than ever portrayed on screen, for one thing.

However, it might echo too much from TWOK, in which Spock himself died twice.

Maybe, but they did destroy the Enterprise, which itself was an unapologetic echo of STIII.

That was another letdown for me, the Enterprise destruction. It might have had more impact if the crew at least acted like they gave a f*ck about it.

 

[BillJ]

^ Kirk's Virgil to Picard's Dante... I love that idea!

Anyway, I just thought of a red herring: an opening holodeck scene in which the Enterprise-D blows up. Simulation ends, and suddenly we find the ship just fine and dandy. Later on, when there's the (supposedly) climactic battle with the Klingons, then BOOM! The real death of the Enterprise! We'd see the holodeck in a bigger and more vast way than ever portrayed on screen, for one thing.

However, it might echo too much from TWOK, in which Spock himself died twice.

Maybe, but they did destroy the Enterprise, which itself was an unapologetic echo of STIII.

That was another letdown for me, the Enterprise destruction. It might have had more impact if the crew at least acted like they gave a f*ck about it.

I think Riker did, but that was all the emotion Rick Berman allowed into modern Trek.

 

[Yeoman Randi]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: KILLING OFF LURSA AND B'ETOR SUCKED!!!!!!

Also, Kirk's role was a total letdown.

I also hate that the Duras Sisters with their Klingon Kleavage are gone too.....i loved those two crazy broads!