Whose your favorite female rebel? Mine is McGiver's. She didn't give a shat when she fell in love with Khan and went off with him. Talk about fraternizing with the enemy!
Why are the women of the Enterprise so rebelious?
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Oh, I do wish you hadn't started with that example, Vixen. McGivers is probably my least favorite female in all of Trekdom because to me, she doesn't seem like a rebel. She seems like a weak little woman who goes all mushy over an alpha male.
But it's interesting - really, I'm not being sarcastic - that you can find something admirable about her.
Favorite rebel? Hmmmm...probably Ro Laren. I am still not sure that I approve of what she did, but it made her a fascinating character, it helped make a very interesting episode (a couple of interesting episodes, really, but I'm talking primarily about the last one she was in) and illustrated a fantastic dilemma for the Federation.
But it's interesting - really, I'm not being sarcastic - that you can find something admirable about her.
Favorite rebel? Hmmmm...probably Ro Laren. I am still not sure that I approve of what she did, but it made her a fascinating character, it helped make a very interesting episode (a couple of interesting episodes, really, but I'm talking primarily about the last one she was in) and illustrated a fantastic dilemma for the Federation.
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Agreed on all points. McGivers really is one of the worst possible examples.
And I would say Kira instead, but she wasn't Starfleet or on an Enterprise ever, so I'm not sure she counts for this thread.
I'm with you Kate. I just wanna smack McGivers in the head for what she did. Rebellious? Nah.
Off the top of my head, i would say Jadzia. BUT, its been a LOOOONG time since i watched DS9 at any great length, so i could be way off base picking her. I just remember her as a strong willed, gutsy woman who wasnt afraid of anything or anyone's opinion of her (not early on though).
Fully agreed.
Janice Lester has her beat....she not only messed up Kirk's mind...she took it out and put hers in his body...
Haha I hate McGivers, she just appeals to me as the gutsiest out of them all to defy the federation, albeit, the weakling that she is. Never said she wasn't.
It's a chick thread, it doesn't have to make sense!
**run's for dear life, dodging items thrown at him**
Seriously, I would never think of McGivers as strong or rebellious. She was weak-minded and therefore easily manipulated by Khan.
To be fair, McGivers did have the guts to reverse herself and try and do the right thing in the end. So she did rebel against Khan, at least in a way.
^ And she got killed by a Ceti Eel in the end.
I nominate Dr. Miranda Jones, although technically she wasn't part of the ship's crew...
Really?
Need to go back and read that, it's been 30 years! I have a couple of favourites: Elizabeth Dehner, who wasn't really a rebel, but certainly knew her own mind, and Ro Laren, who was rebelling, against something, but not Picard, I don't think.
One of my favorite TOS characters, certainly one of the most interesting TOS females. She was rebelling against human(oid) society in general, which makes her more of a rebel than any of the others.
If we are talking about rebelling against the Starfleet, Ro Laren is the most obvious choice.
There are other women who were rebelling against their status in their own society - Ishka and Pel among the Ferengis; Natima Lang was a dissident in Cardassia; K'Ehleyr was rebelling against the Klingon traditions, but then again, she was half-human - but they're not really the subject of this thread since they have nothing to do with the Starfleet.
I never saw Marla McGivers as a rebel, more like an example of the "hunky alpha-male comes along - woman swoons and completely submits to him" variety of female characters that TOS seemed fond of. But on second thought, I guess you might say that she was rebellious in a way, since she was a historian who was always interested in the augments and apparently fascinated by Khan even before she even got to know him... So, she might have had these leanings long before she met Khan.
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Totally agree. She was a moony-eyed wuss even for the period. I really didn't know what Khan saw in her.
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