What is the most you have seen Colossus lift in a comic book? Has he lifted an entire building or mountains. Can he lift a battleship? I've seen him toss around tanks and rip them up, but that was along time ago. how strong is he now?
Colossus-feats of strength
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Ultimate Colossus dragged a Russian submarine off the sea-bed after it ran aground in 'World Tour'
Impressive.
If I correctly recall the first Marvel Handbook, Colossus is ranked below The Thing, who in turn is below Hulk, Thor and Hercules.
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Colossus: Strength level 7
Ever-lovin' blue-eyed Thing: Strength level 6
Hulk: Strength level 7
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I'm surprised. I never would've guessed Colossus was stronger than Ben Grimm. I figured that Benjy was right up there with the Hulk, given how many indecisive battles they've had.
Ever-lovin' blue-eyed Thing: Strength level 6
Hulk: Strength level 7
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I'm surprised. I never would've guessed Colossus was stronger than Ben Grimm. I figured that Benjy was right up there with the Hulk, given how many indecisive battles they've had.
^^ That does seem weird, I don't think Colossus is generally shown doing such "feats of strength" on the level of the others.
Ben Grimm did seem to enjoy relative parity with the Hulk for many years. But then writers started inflating Hulk's power beyond all reason (if "reason" applies in superhero comics, of course). By the time of World War Hulk, the Hulk was brushing off Ben's punches as though they were puffs of smoke.
^That's one reason I've never much cared for the comic-book version of the Hulk. As I understand it, he gets stronger as he gets angrier, with no theoretical upper limit. That basically means he's impossible to defeat -- so how can he ever be in danger? How can we root for him or worry about him if his victory is always inevitable?
Well, the Hulk is all about psychology. Sure, he gets invincible the angrier he gets, but classic Hulk is also stupid; it's not exactly easy to get him that angry and make him sustain it for any period of time. The intelligent version of the Hulk faced a different problem; he was too civilized to ever get as angry classic Hulk did. Warrior Hulk (from Planet Hulk) was a blur of the two (intelligent yet savage), so he could sustain higher levels; but I think his grossly overpowered nature was mostly due to adjusting to the planet he had been on (similar to an athelete gaining an edge by training in higher altitudes). As Warrior Hulk stayed on earth and re-adjusted, that edge dwindled away.
But the bottom line is that Marvel has always been pretty good about giving an achilles heel to their "invincible" characters. Certainly Hulk can pulverize you if you keep pissing him off; but if you jingle your keys in front of him, he'll just turn back into Banner and leave you alone.
And what's the allure of stupid Hulk? The same allure people get from certain movies; you're yelling at the comic page, "Look behind you, you idiot!"
Ultimate Hulk's basically the animal side of Banner let loose. All he wants is sex with Betty, food and to kill people.
HULK WANT TO KILL FREDDIE PRINZE JNR!
HULK WANT TO KILL FREDDIE PRINZE JNR!
Which I think is grossly missing the point of the character. He's supposed to be a frustrated child in a giant's body, more sympathetic than scary. The Ultimate version is just gratuitously evil. I mean, from what I've read about the character (I haven't actually read the comics and have no desire to), the Ultimate Hulk isn't just a murderer, but a cannibal. That's just disgusting. Why would anyone want to see that in a comic book?
Yeah, but there's a reason for that. Hulk was angrier than he'd ever been at that point. Thing and Colossus are limited in terms of how strong they can get. Theoretically, there's no such limit to how angry Hulk can get. However, we did see what happened when until he found out who really sabotaged his ship.
Plus, during World War Hulk, Colossus was present when he attacked Xaviers. Colossus and pretty much all of the other X-Men were no match for him. He even beat Juggernaut.
So Superman vs. Colossus-do you think that would be a one punch fight? Superman holding back just to keep from killing Colossus? How much does that type of Russian Sub weigh in at? I know back in the beginning of World War II there was a treaty that limited Battleships to 35,000 tons, but the Bismark broke that treaty and I think the Missouri was way over that treaty limit.
I had always understood that their "official" strength levels were:
Colossus-Press 70 tons
Thing- Press 85 tons
Hulk- Press 100+ tons
Colossus-Press 70 tons
Thing- Press 85 tons
Hulk- Press 100+ tons
World War Hulk rewrote that, plus it's generally accepted that Colossus is stronger than the Thing now.
World War Hulk arguably put the Hulk at the top of the tree as far as Earth-based Heroes go. Though the subsequent Hulk book has reduced him somewhat once again, possibly because he's not as angry as he was there.
Let's put it this way - in WWH, Hulk thrashed Black Bolt (who was probably number two behind The Sentry at that point, although he may have been a Skrull impostor), the Mighty Avengers (Ms. Marvel, Ares, Black Widow, Wonder Man and Wasp), She Hulk, the New Avengers (specifically Spider-Man, Spider-Woman and Luke Cage), Iron Man (in Hulkbuster armour), the Fantastic Four (plus temporary members Storm and Black Panther), the X-Men (as in all of them, pretty much every remaining heroic mutant left), Juggernaut, a huge chunk of the United States Army, Doctor Strange (even after channeling the demon Zom) and finally fights The Sentry to a standstill.
That 70 ton number is too low for any superstrong guy. A M-1 U.S. Army tank weighs 70 tons. Those guys toss around tanks with ease. Ships get really gigantic when it comes to tonnage. If a super hero is tossing them around then he really is mega strong.
It's interesting that a Superman clone was needed to subdue the Hulk.
Yes, it's even gotten to the point now where every storyline seems to have to explain why Bob doesn't just go and fix it like they had to in World War Hulk. I mean the guy's wife was killed so he just decided that she was still alive and then she was.
Though I'd argue that the Sentry is perhaps more even powerful than Superman. The power of Earth's yellow sun versus the power of a million exploding suns ?
(The guy must be that powerful - even Namor knew to shut up and do as he was told when Osborn showed he had Bob backing him up.)
"The power of a million exploding suns" sounds like public relations, not physics.
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