So was the timeline ever corrected?

[JarodRussell]

In the very first episode, they have the Klingon being chased on Earth, which, according to Daniels, shouldn't have happened in the original timeline. Was this ever solved?

And the Xindi attack on Earth shouldn't have happened either, should it? Was this ever corrected?



This was my main gripe with that show, because it already didn't fit quite well into the canon (sorry), but it was excused with the Temporal Cold War. But the effects of that war to the original timeline were never corrected, were they?

Which means that Star Trek Nemesis, since it's the first instance of TNG were a model of the NX-01 appears in the briefing room, is in an alternate timeline created by the Temporal Cold War, isn't it?

I always hoped that they would actually find an intelligent way to solve this. The very last episode should have been about the Enterprise-E (not the D) finding the wreckage of the NX-01. And they run the entire ship's log through the holodeck to see what happened there, and why there are no records of a ship named Enterprise prior to the NCC-1701.

 

[Deckerd]

Trying to fit it all into one neat timeline is like trying to get the toothpaste back into the tube.

 

[JarodRussell]

[...] like trying to get the toothpaste back into the tube.

And that one actually works.

 

[Nerys Myk]

This was my main gripe with that show, because it already didn't fit quite well into the canon (sorry), but it was excused with the Temporal Cold War. But the effects of that war to the original timeline were never corrected, were they?

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It fits fine with the canon (canon being a collection of related officially recognised works) As for continuity, again it works fine and fits in with what went before better than TOS fits with its self.

The ENT to VOY timeline is the correct one. We've never seen what that other timeline was like, just an occasional "Thats not right!!!!" from Daniels.

 

[apenpaap]

The ENT to VOY timeline is the correct one. We've never seen what that other timeline was like, just an occasional "Thats not right!!!!" from Daniels.

Agreed. IMO Enterprise is part of the same timeline as the other four shows, and Daniels and Future Guy and Female Founder lookalike are from an alternate timeline.

 

[ChristopherPike]

The ENT to VOY timeline is the correct one. We've never seen what that other timeline was like, just an occasional "Thats not right!!!!" from Daniels.

Agreed. IMO Enterprise is part of the same timeline as the other four shows, and Daniels and Future Guy and Female Founder lookalike are from an alternate timeline.

Not so long back I posted a long rant how Future Guy couldn't possibly be from an alternate timeline, but the more I think about it, the more he could just as easily be from an Abramsverse future. Everything prior to Nero's arrival is supposedly the same. Like the branches of a tree stemming back into a trunk. Ah, but hang on, then there would be two Future Guys whose actions interfere with the past... unless I'm overthinking that. At any rate it would enable time travel to the past of ENT from either reality.

 

[JarodRussell]

The ENT to VOY timeline is the correct one. We've never seen what that other timeline was like, just an occasional "Thats not right!!!!" from Daniels.

Well, I would rather think that TOS to VOY is the correct one, BECAUSE Daniels often said "That's not right" in ENT.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Well, I would rather think that TOS to VOY is the correct one, BECAUSE Daniels often said "That's not right" in ENT.

Who's to say Daniels' preferred timeline was the same as ours?

 

[Nerys Myk]

The ENT to VOY timeline is the correct one. We've never seen what that other timeline was like, just an occasional "Thats not right!!!!" from Daniels.

Well, I would rather think that TOS to VOY is the correct one, BECAUSE Daniels often said "That's not right" in ENT.

Think what you like.

 

[ALF]

It's a multiverse. It is now the only way to explain all the inconsistent material.
That's all Trek, not just ENT.
Dismissing a TV show because it doesn't fit into established canon is a choice people make... I prefer to just enjoy entertainment. Life's too short to spend your time worrying otherwise.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

And we will never know what exactly is the deal with Daniels (or even Future Guy), so speculating based on what those people said is going to be pointless anyway.

 

[JarodRussell]

Was at the end of the show still that huge rift in North America caused by the Xindi weapon (again something that wasn't supposed to happen according to Daniels)? Or was that event erased from the timeline (which would have erased the entire third season actually).

Since Daniels brought Archer aboard the Enterprise NCC-1701-J, which means that Kirk did live in Daniels timeline, doing all the missions that gave the Enterprise the honor of keeping her registry with the A, B, C, D... letters.

 

[Mach5]

Was at the end of the show still that huge rift in North America caused by the Xindi weapon (again something that wasn't supposed to happen according to Daniels)? Or was that event erased from the timeline (which would have erased the entire third season actually).

Doesn't ST 11 show North America from space at the end? I remember seeing Europe, but someone said that in the US version they showed USA... That rift would definitely be visible from orbit.

 

[ChristopherPike]

Everything that happened, happened. In Demons, Paxton's henchman is rallying Terra Prime supporters at the lunar mining facility. One of the thrusts of his argument is how the Xindi never made reparations for the 9 million they killed. You can bet their recruitment went into overdrive while the NX-01 spent many months in the Expanse and that filters through into Phlox's storyline in Home and that surge in xenophobic attacks is intially suspected when he's abducted in Affliction.

The Prime timeline is pretty much intact in my view, the end product probably the direct result of there having been a Temporal Cold War. Only those from the far future, somehow able to survive alterations to their history might despute that.

 

[Mach5]

Hm, the way I see it, the only way not to get affected by timeline tampering is to somehow exit the space/time continuum, like Annorax did in VOY's "Year of hell.
After all, even the slightest, infinitesimal change affects the timeline irreversibly, creates another branch, whatever...

But then, I choose to accept the idea that time itself is a complicated term, utterly incomprehensible to "simple" beings like us. So in order to comprehend time, we would first need to evolve enought to achieve true enlightenment, ascension of sorts, like what David Bowman experienced in "2001: A Space Odyssey," when he basically evolved into something like Q (Starchild).

Concerning Daniels, his "history has no record of this" crap only deepened the confusion and gave ammo to ENT not Trek basementiers and canon-jihadists.

 

[Dane_Whitman]

ENT is in the same timeline as the other shows. It's most likely Daniels and all the other peeps messing with time are from alternate timelines.