New TOS discoveries in HD/DVD

[Pindar]

this is so incisive i hope you go to other threads and push your theory that hi-def is 'too much' detail. And use the exact same phrase each time.
Oh wait i can see you are already doing that.

What a nice response to come back too.

I have posted twice in response to other peoples threads with my reaction to my first viewing of TOS in hi-def.

I should like to know exactly how this equates to pushing an agenda?

Anyway after watching a bit more this weekend I am much happier as the production values are much higher after the pilot episode and quality of the uniforms is much better in the other episodes.

Kirk does wear a lot of mascara though.

 

[Forbin]

Kirk does wear a lot of mascara though.

Wait till you see The Enemy Within in HD!


John - agenda-driven luddite.

 

[Grant]

We've moved past when people first spotted this stuff.

It's just about the stuff as the opeining poster said.


As for the mascara, 'evil Kirk' wears a lot in Enemy, but check out 'regular' Kirk in Corbomite when he is sitting on the rail talking to spock--it's overwhelming.

 

[Captain Robert April]

So far, I'm not seeing much in the line of "revelations" that I didn't notice 30+ years ago on our 19" Sony Trinitron. Many of them have been cited umpteen million times in various nitpicker's guides.

*yawn*

 

[Forbin]

Si, the first poster wanted to know things never noticed before, things only noticed because of the higher res of HD/DVD. I was pointing out that the painted rocks don't qualify since a lot of people noticed them long ago. Also, Grant, I was directly answering your direct question about why they were painted.

 

[Grant]

Si, the first poster wanted to know things never noticed before, things only noticed because of the higher res of HD/DVD. I was pointing out that the painted rocks don't qualify since a lot of people noticed them long ago. Also, Grant, I was directly answering your direct question about why they were painted.

No, you are playing this game of pretending everything that you can see on BLU/DVD can be seen 'on an old Magnavox' or whetever.
You just can't let go. It's pathetic.

I am not watching season 1 on an old TV. I am watching them on Blu-ray in Hi-def and commenting.
Neither you nor I can know for sure what anybody else can see in what format. Let it go.
Every time somebody posts something are you now going to feel the need to say you saw it years ago on TV or another format and therefore it's 'disqualified' from this thread?
Either post things you've seen or get over that you don't think Blu-ray is that good. You've said your eyes are bad so who cares what the opinion of picture quality is by someone admits their vision isn't that good.

In Miri........I have heard folks in the past say that the two security guards apparently didn't get the purple blotches, but last night I used the zoom feature and Galloway has one on his right cheek & "Sturgeon resurected" has some on his forehead.
Also i noticed that Jahn clearly takes just 5 communicators so i don't know what the deal was. Why did the security guards leave their communicators inside on the tables anyway?

 

[Therin of Andor]

Every time somebody posts something are you now going to feel the need to say you saw it years ago on TV or another format and therefore it's 'disqualified' from this thread?

Sorry, but if you throw out a challenge, some of us are gonna take it up.

When the "Nitpickers' Guide" books came out, many years ago now, the writer set up a website so that avid fans could post their own discoveries, and most of your TOS HD nits really were covered. Sadly, last time I looked, the old "Nitpickers' Guide" website was gone.

 

[ScatmanRescueMe]

I don't happen to own VHS copies of TOS and I don't own a 480i TV. I own TOS on Blu-ray and have a 1080p HDTV. So, if I post something I just noticed---will I be mocked if somebody saw it years ago on Betamax?


At any rate. I just got done watching 'Where No Man' and i saw that they DIDN'T remove the strings on gary's cup or kirk's Phaser rifle. Does anybody now why not? It WAS an FX heavy episode---perhaps they ran out of time.
And I did check out the bio files on Dehner & Mitchell. Pretty funny. He came from 'DELMAN' & she came from 'ELDMAN' They simply swaped the first two letters from the cities name so the charts would appear different. I WISH they had remastered the bios. They show Dehner/Sally Kellerman's height as 5'2" !!!

 

[Captain Robert April]

Okay, that sort thing qualifies, but mainly thanks to the ability to freeze the image and be able to read the text.

As for the strings on the cup, in standard resolution, they're not readily visible, and they're completely invisible on an old mid-60's Zenith. So seeing the strings also qualifies as the revelation of a previously invisible detail.

 

[Forbin]

Si, the first poster wanted to know things never noticed before, things only noticed because of the higher res of HD/DVD. I was pointing out that the painted rocks don't qualify since a lot of people noticed them long ago. Also, Grant, I was directly answering your direct question about why they were painted.

No, you are playing this game of pretending everything that you can see on BLU/DVD can be seen 'on an old Magnavox' or whetever.
You just can't let go. It's pathetic.

I am not watching season 1 on an old TV. I am watching them on Blu-ray in Hi-def and commenting.
Neither you nor I can know for sure what anybody else can see in what format. Let it go.
Every time somebody posts something are you now going to feel the need to say you saw it years ago on TV or another format and therefore it's 'disqualified' from this thread?
Either post things you've seen or get over that you don't think Blu-ray is that good. You've said your eyes are bad so who cares what the opinion of picture quality is by someone admits their vision isn't that good.

You're coming up with this whole fake overblown bio of me based on a few comments! Very creative!

 

[Maurice]

Guys, may I suggest we stop sniping each other and just talk about what we've noticed that we didn't notice before? Let's all be gentlemen and women and not heed the desire to have the last word. That's my one and old post on the matter. Thanks for your attention.

 

[Botany Bay]

Thanks DS9Sega

There are plenty of great discoveries being posted here, really enjoying them.

 

[Hambone]

This morning I watched "Operation: Annihilate!" and saw something new. In the scene where Spock rushes the bridge and tries to take over the ship, notice the communications officer. She's way in the background, over on the LH side of the screen. She's a black woman but it's not Nichelle Nichols. Unlike most of the male background characters, I've never seen her in any other episodes. Who is this woman? Where is Uhura for this one scene? Inquiring minds want to know.

Here she is, next to the ever-so-yummy Yeoman Tamura.

On a side note, I love the "death ray" stare-down Uhura gives Kirk at the beginning of the episode, when he yells at her for not being able to contact his brother.

 

[Doug Otte]

In Miri........Also i noticed that Jahn clearly takes just 5 communicators so i don't know what the deal was. Why did the security guards leave their communicators inside on the tables anyway?

Didn't you ever leave your cellphone on the table?

Doug

 

[ScatmanRescueMe]

Guys, may I suggest we stop sniping each other and just talk about what we've noticed that we didn't notice before? Let's all be gentlemen and women and not heed the desire to have the last word. That's my one and old post on the matter. Thanks for your attention.

Amen brother, amen.

Please can we stick to things we've noticed and nobody try to disqualify anything. That seems childish. Some of us ONLY have Blu-ray now and I would like to comment on stuff without getting blasted.

Thanks.


I tell what should never be seen in 1080p Balok & Bailey's teeth !! Cripes even 480i is too much resolution when looking at those mangled mouths.

After watching corbomite last night I noticed how dominant they made bailey's arc. Even to the point of silliness. Basically balok knows everything about neutralizing the enterprise but he sends his meesage over bailey's 'navigation beam.' This after the Enterprise is already immobilized and in the shadow of the Fesarius. I mean maybe it would make sense if he sent the message from a great distance away over the nav beam, but after it's dominating the ent---what's the point?

To me it's just to work bailey into the story again. And of corse, he just happens to put the nav beam thingy in his ear three seconds before the message starts.

 

[ScatmanRescueMe]

This morning I watched "Operation: Annihilate!" and saw something new. In the scene where Spock rushes the bridge and tries to take over the ship, notice the communications officer. She's way in the background, over on the LH side of the screen. She's a black woman but it's not Nichelle Nichols. Unlike most of the male background characters, I've never seen her in any other episodes. Who is this woman? Where is Uhura for this one scene? Inquiring minds want to know.

Here she is, next to the ever-so-yummy Yeoman Tamura.

On a side note, I love the "death ray" stare-down Uhura gives Kirk at the beginning of the episode, when he yells at her for not being able to contact his brother.

I really hate to say this, but I noticed that a while back and I got the sinking feeling that in that episode that featured Uhura in all the other scenes came to a point where she was unavailable for that one shot and they felt, "Let's put another black girl there for this one shot and noone will notice."

I hope I'm wrong about this.
But they sure did feel the need to make sure an Asian girl was available to craddle Sulu in 'City' when he got zapped. Was that a coincidence?


And I've left my cellphone on the table but all six of them and while the guards were out on 'patrol'
They need some remedial training like poor Berkley in 'Dagger'

 

[Forbin]

Something I noticed on DVD a while ago is that Nichelle wore white panties under her red panties:

 

[GSchnitzer]

Guys, may I suggest we stop sniping each other and just talk about what we've noticed that we didn't notice before? Let's all be gentlemen and women and not heed the desire to have the last word. That's my one and old post on the matter. Thanks for your attention.

Amen brother, amen.

Please can we stick to things we've noticed and nobody try to disqualify anything. That seems childish. Some of us ONLY have Blu-ray now and I would like to comment on stuff without getting blasted.

Thanks.


I tell what should never be seen in 1080p Balok & Bailey's teeth !! Cripes even 480i is too much resolution when looking at those mangled mouths.

After watching corbomite last night I noticed how dominant they made bailey's arc. Even to the point of silliness. Basically balok knows everything about neutralizing the enterprise but he sends his meesage over bailey's 'navigation beam.' This after the Enterprise is already immobilized and in the shadow of the Fesarius. I mean maybe it would make sense if he sent the message from a great distance away over the nav beam, but after it's dominating the ent---what's the point?

To me it's just to work bailey into the story again. And of corse, he just happens to put the nav beam thingy in his ear three seconds before the message starts.

Well, up until the last minute, Dave Bailey was the communications officer on the bridge and Nichelle Nichols hadn't been added to the list of featured players and there was no Lieutenant Uhura. So, so much of the communications dialog still rests with the Bailey character. (They didn't really give much of the dialog to Uhura. Pretty much the only dialog they gave her is about fifty "hailing frequencies open" lines that they made up to give her something to say.)

So, take out Uhura, put Bailey over at Communications instead of at Navigation, and the whole episode makes a lot more sense. When you see the evolution of the script, you'll see that it's Uhura they had to work in, not Bailey. He was already in.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Something I noticed on DVD a while ago is that Nichelle wore white panties under her red panties

She wore them both when playing golf. In case she got a hole in one.

When you see the evolution of the script, you'll see that it's Uhura they had to work in, not Bailey. He was already in.

When Nichelle Nichols auditioned they had no Uhura lines written and they got her to deliver Spock's lines, IIRC.

 

[Doug Otte]

Something I noticed on DVD a while ago is that Nichelle wore white panties under her red panties

She wore them both when playing golf. In case she got a hole in one.

Therin, that's the second funniest thing you've ever posted.
Doug