New TOS discoveries in HD/DVD

[Grant]

The friends i have shown season 1 to are very surprised by how good it looks and how a show shot that far back can come out so nice. They say they feel like they are really drawn into the stories.

But you can't accept that Pindar had an opposite reaction?

I do accept it and i feel bad for him that he can't enjoy it on the new format.

I don't accept some people (not anyone in particular) spreading the idea that 'it looks bad' on hi-def or seeing more detail means you're only seeing 'bad' things---like mistakes or limitations in production.

On the contrary, for every 'bad' detail i notice i see dozens of examples of beatuful costuming, facial features revealed, location shots looking great, matte paintings illuminated, and yes, even props and aliens that look great in hi-def.
I will never get tired of looking at the faces of the actors and thinking that they might as well be in the same room as I, because of the hi-def resolution.
Instead of Spock looking 'fake' cause his ear seam isn't perfect---he looks 'real' because it's like he right in the room.

Peace.




WHEN I CAME ABOARD !!!

 

[Botany Bay]

Just watched Squire of Gothos with my son, and noticed Trelane had the head of some poor little bug eyed thing stuffed and hung on that pillar near the entrance stairs. You can see him when DeSalle, Bones and Jaeger first enter and notice the Salt Vampire.

Never noticed Mr. Buggy Eyes in 10,000 prior viewings

 

[Forbin]

There CAN be too much of a good thing. Like a nice hi-res digital papparazzi closeup of your favorite hot celebrity chick without makeup, where you can see she has blotchy skin, big pores, a mustache, bloodshot eyes, a pimple and one of those red mole thingies.

Instead of concentrating on the episode I was being pulled out of it by seeing zips and fasteners.

Somehow it went from looking like a ship to looking like a set.

When I saw 2010 in the theater, I remember seeing woodgrain under the paint in the Discovery interiors. TV resolution is kinder to that film.


John, apparently a luddite.

 

[Grant]

TV resolution IS now 1080p. Analog 480 is dead.

And now theatrical movies look better in 480?

I really do feel sorry for you, that every movie now becomes about the defects you can see.


In Dagger...... The box sent up from the surface is labled

Stockholm, Eurasia NE----I wonder what the 'NE' stands for

'Nutcase enclosed' ??

 

[Hambone]

Continuing my journey through my new TOS-R Season 1 set; this morning I watched "A Taste of Armageddon".

I noticed that in the scene where Kirk & Co. first see the Eminians reporting to the disintegration booths, a woman wearing white shoes, blue tights and a purple tunic goes into the booth to get zapped. Later, right after Spock pulls his "multi-legged creature" gag, the same woman is standing next to the disintegrator. What's more, two scenes later when the disintegrator is in flames and everyone is running around in panic, the same woman runs by the camera yet again.

 

[Grant]

I knew it!!!

The Eminians WERE renegging on the treaty. They played the game of sending people into the disintegrator but it has a secret exit that the 'victim' uses to escape----like a magicians trick.

Also in A Taste of.... I now see (on Blu-ray) that there was NOT a multi-legged creature crawling on the guards shoulder. i guess they figured with the lower resolution of old TVs that they didn't even need to put one there.

 

[Noname Given]

Continuing my journey through my new TOS-R Season 1 set; this morning I watched "A Taste of Armageddon".

I noticed that in the scene where Kirk & Co. first see the Eminians reporting to the disintegration booths, a woman wearing white shoes, blue tights and a purple tunic goes into the booth to get zapped. Later, right after Spock pulls his "multi-legged creature" gag, the same woman is standing next to the disintegrator. What's more, two scenes later when the disintegrator is in flames and everyone is running around in panic, the same woman runs by the camera yet again.

Nah! They were triplets attending their birthday party when the last attack hit, thus they all went in together

 

[Forbin]

TV resolution IS now 1080p. Analog 480 is dead.

And now theatrical movies look better in 480?

I really do feel sorry for you, that every movie now becomes about the defects you can see.


In Dagger...... The box sent up from the surface is labled

Stockholm, Eurasia NE----I wonder what the 'NE' stands for

'Nutcase enclosed' ??

Feel sorry for yourself, pal. I'm just fine.

 

[Grant]

TV resolution IS now 1080p. Analog 480 is dead.

And now theatrical movies look better in 480?

I really do feel sorry for you, that every movie now becomes about the defects you can see.


In Dagger...... The box sent up from the surface is labled

Stockholm, Eurasia NE----I wonder what the 'NE' stands for

'Nutcase enclosed' ??

Feel sorry for yourself, pal. I'm just fine.

you're not my Pal & you're not fine.

You've ignored the subject of this thread from your first post and on every post you've made on it. You could care less about the subject of this thread.
You are determined to keep talking about all the stuff you see in movies and videos that looks 'worse' in hi-def. You have an agenda which seems to be "I'm so observant & I see so many things (even where it's you're first viewing of a theatrical movie) that it takes me out of the movie."
And therefore hi-def is bad for somebody as obsevent as you.

Wow, you're special!

Well, now I don't feel sorry for you, but i feel sorry for the other folks who actually, occasionally, get pulled out of a movie by some flaw or something they notice.

For one time, try to point out something that might be interesting that you've noticed in TOS that you've seen on DVD.

I've noted about 40. i hope somebody out there found some of them slightly interesting.

 

[Grant]

In Conscience..........I never really noticed before that the view outside of Dr Leighton's window was the same matte used as 'Mohave'---Pike's hometown.
I'm also a little surprised they didn't alter it in the Remastered version.

Their policy was to leave the matte untouched for the original use and then make a new one for any episode where it was used again. (Such as the Cage fortress not being re-used in Requiem remastered)
i kind of wish they had redone the city matte in Conscience because they did a real nice job for every matte they did in the remaster project.
I adore the new matte used in Requiem........



WHEN I CAME ABOARD !!!

 

[Forbin]

TV resolution IS now 1080p. Analog 480 is dead.

And now theatrical movies look better in 480?

I really do feel sorry for you, that every movie now becomes about the defects you can see.


In Dagger...... The box sent up from the surface is labled

Stockholm, Eurasia NE----I wonder what the 'NE' stands for

'Nutcase enclosed' ??

Feel sorry for yourself, pal. I'm just fine.

you're not my Pal & you're not fine.

You've ignored the subject of this thread from your first post and on every post you've made on it. You could care less about the subject of this thread.
You are determined to keep talking about all the stuff you see in movies and videos that looks 'worse' in hi-def. You have an agenda which seems to be "I'm so observant & I see so many things (even where it's you're first viewing of a theatrical movie) that it takes me out of the movie."
And therefore hi-def is bad for somebody as obsevent as you.

Wow, you're special!

Well, now I don't feel sorry for you, but i feel sorry for the other folks who actually, occasionally, get pulled out of a movie by some flaw or something they notice.

For one time, try to point out something that might be interesting that you've noticed in TOS that you've seen on DVD.

I've noted about 40. i hope somebody out there found some of them slightly interesting.

Jesus Christ, dude, take a tranquilizer before your head explodes!
I've made a few offhand comments in this thread and you're acting like I'm stalking you! Agenda? Wow! You're the one calling people sad, luddites, and feeling sorry for them if they don't share your elitist entertainment opinions. Pop a vallium and chill - people can have opinions that aren't yours.

 

[trevanian]

In Conscience..........I never really noticed before that the view outside of Dr Leighton's window was the same matte used as 'Mohave'---Pike's hometown.

So most of this thread is just stuff you hadn't noticed previously? That probably covers way more than we who actually paid attention to these shows when aired or on vhs or ld or dvd want to read. If you'd watched these shows with proper attention earlier, these wouldn't be seeming like revelations now. It is like people who hadn't seen TMP in better than vhs form before the DC DVD, who didn't realize the theatrical looked fine in many parts, and thought it was all 'fixed' with that dvd, when in fact it was just applied like a thirdhand bandaid.

Forbin, I don't think this guy's posts are elitist at all. He'd need to actually have standards to attain that level.

 

[Forbin]

Being extremely nearsighted is a help. I don't see well enough to care about HD.

 

[Grant]

In Shore Leave.......I see some of the rocks are just painted with splashes of red or orange paint. I wonder if this was a way for them to make the planet look 'exotic' of if it had something to do with the filming or if the 'park' they were filming at had done it for another reason.

Anybody know?

 

[ScatmanRescueMe]

Ironically my bad vision can actually see things in Blu-ray I can't see on other formats. I think hi-def is a boon for old farts like myself with declining eyesight.

I hadn't noticed some of the background items mentioned in this thread. i have been making a list for each episode and will try to ignore the story and catch many of these details next time I watch them.

I hope I'm not mocked for not being observant in seeing these things before. I actually keep forgetting to notice all the background stuff, because i keep getting caught up in the stories even when i'm looking for Scotty's finger or whatever!

I want to thank the opening poster for this thread and the folks who contributed.
After i watch the first disc again tonight, I might even try to contribute one myself.

 

[Grant]

^^^

Wow, someone who likes Blu-ray and hasn't previously noticed EVERY SINGLE thing in this thread-----go away you loser!!!!


If you're starting with disc 1------
The best shot ever of the fact that they didn't bother to cut a seam between the turbo-lift and the corridor set is in Where No...' when the show the overhead shot of them entering the lift.

In Corbomite....is the best shot of the rare use of the 'double-doors' on the bridge turbo-lift set.
The inner door is gray and the outer is red. They later didn't bother much to show that the lifts had an inner & outer door as modern elevators do----to keep folks from falling down the sharft.

 

[ScatmanRescueMe]

I knew there were a few really good shots of 'both' lift doors, but i had forgot which episodes had them. I'll try to keep an eye out during Corbomite.

 

[Green Shirt]

In Dagger...... The box sent up from the surface is labled

Stockholm, Eurasia NE----I wonder what the 'NE' stands for

'Nutcase enclosed' ??

BTW, did you see how the "Dr." in Dr. Tristan Adams name on one of the boxes beamed down looked to be written on a paper cut-out covering something else? And that was on standard DVD resolution on a 10 year old 35" tube TV.


Plus, the TOS era transporters weren't very sophisticated, they couldn't tell they were beaming up a lifeform.
Or maybe that was just another Berkley screwup. Guess he needed to bone up on that section of procedures, too.

 

[T'Bonz]

OK, enough of the personal crap. Next one gets warned.

 

[Forbin]

In Shore Leave.......I see some of the rocks are just painted with splashes of red or orange paint. I wonder if this was a way for them to make the planet look 'exotic' of if it had something to do with the filming or if the 'park' they were filming at had done it for another reason.

Anybody know?

I was pretty sure they did that for the episode when I first noticed it 40 years ago on our Magnavox.