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Nerys Ghemor's DS9 Episode Review Thread

Nerys Ghemor

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This isn't going to be a full rewatch, and will pretty much happen on a when-I-feel-like-it basis, but since I rewatched "Emissary" tonight, I thought I'd jump on the bandwagon of all of the review threads and put in my own two cents.

Those of you who are new to the series--please be aware that this is a rewatch thread, and therefore there will be spoilers and references to future episodes. If this is not something you want to see, you may want to check out some of the first-time watching threads, many of which can be quite interesting. ;)






So anyway...now that I have the obligatory disclaimer/warning out of the way, I'd like to share a few thoughts about "Emissary."

From the very first moments, you can tell this is going to be a very different series from TOS or TNG--opening up with a scene of destruction this personal was a very bold move for its time, in a Trek series, one that in a way, was compounded by showing Sisko actually managing to throw Picard off balance in a way that's actually visible to the viewer. Sure, it wasn't pronounced like it might have been with a less stoic character, but it was definitely there. Allowing Sisko to go after the character that I think was the ultimate symbol of TNG and its tone and philosophy was the perfect way to set DS9 apart from anything that had come before it.

After having gone a long time between series watches, it really is awe-inspiring to me to get those first few looks at DS9's external architecture. For me, personally, it's hard to see what people find so threatening or depressing about DS9's alien architecture--for me, it's beautiful, much more so than the bland Federation look. On the other hand, it's also quite a stark reminder of how far the characters have to go, at this point, to get a look at the trashed station--and to watch the openly antagonistic relationships between some of them that will only later turn into respect.

From a plot perspective...to me, it's remarkable what a compelling story the writers managed to come up with, compared to other openings (especially the horrific embarrassment known as "Encounter at Farpoint"). And even seeing the characters in their very beginnings, it's interesting how much stronger of a feel you get for them than you ever do for the TNG characters. I think that by letting us get a real glimpse at their backstories, and letting them speak from the heart instead of acting like stuffed shirts, we get an emotional investment early on that frankly, TNG, VOY, and ENT never accomplished. (Whether TOS did or did not I cannot say, since I haven't watched a lot of it.)

Seeing "Emissary" again...I have to say, I was really reminded just how much I missed the pre-"Blood Oath" Dax, the way she was before they turned her into a Klingon party girl. There was one point where she almost seemed to be channeling Leonard Nimoy, and just...overall, I like this version of her a lot more, and it's a shame that we really lose the Jadzia character after all the Klingon stuff.

Another character that comes into the picture fully realized is Dukat. If all you had seen of Marc Alaimo acting as a Cardassian had been Macet, it would be truly amazing to see just how much Alaimo changed his mannerisms to play this character. Macet was very restrained in his mannerisms and tone, the sort of person who will pause to think before he speaks: firm, but (in my opinion) not going out of his way to be a jerk. Dukat...that's someone who with every move and word is staking a territorial claim. You get a sense of that megalomania right away.

The other great thing that "Emissary" does right away is presenting the Bajorans and their faith in a way that does not have to be taken as derogatory. Whether or not one agrees with their interpretation, the fact that there actually is ROOM to interpret, instead of the viewer simply being spoon-fed the "orthodox view" from the cast, is a major step forward.

Two very small Cardassian-centric points that it was interesting to notice...

First, I couldn't help noticing that Gul Jasad's makeup was VERY much a tribute to the original design used on Macet, Daro, and Telle. You get a good close-up of Jasad's face--and I even found myself wondering if the same prosthetics, or at least the moulds, were re-used. (Personally I like this because I think it could be an ethnic-group division among the Cardassians...and if you ask me, aliens SHOULD have that sort of diversity to add realism.)

And secondly--I couldn't help noticing that the design of the Cardassian bridge...for the Galor class!...has changed drastically from episode to episode. I've seen at least three different designs: Macet's bridge, Nador's, and Jasad's, and I think there may be even more as DS9 progresses. Was there ever one official design, or not??? (Though I do find myself wondering if various Galors got retrofitted for differing purposes, and if there really ARE significant internal differences from ship to ship, even though they seem the same on the outside?)
 
It's been quie a while since I last saw Emisary, but I remember thinking it was both very good and rather boring. We really got a good introduction to all characters except Julian (At that point, his character was simply "the doctor", with no further character traits)
 
Spot on.
Currently rewatching season one and I must say it gets better every time.

Emissary is one of the best two hours of SciFi ever in my opinion. Also the perfect Star Trek pilot.
The characters are very well introduced. Bashir is indeed an exception, but he is the only character I find borderline annoying in the early episodes. His womanizing is a good plot device or cause for comedic scenes sometimes, but does it have to be in every episode?


The FX are wonderful. Good FX in all the right places and more. You see the Oberth bringing Dax and Bashir. Sisko and Jake seeing DS9 through the starship window, the battle of Wolf 359...awesome even now.
I agree about old Dax=better, The "Klingon party girl" is right on :rommie:
And the prophet encounter was so well done. The later encounters were so disappointing in comparison.
Quality TV scifi made by talented guys that LOVE Star Trek.
 
"Emissary" grabbed my attention right away. I remember back when the series first aired, I was wondering how they would distinguish themselves from what was still in progress, and I was worried about the effects of market saturation, particularly with Babylon 5 also on the horizon.

As it turns out, my worries were completely unjustified. There was room enough in the television universe for 3 sci-fi juggernauts and then some. I loved the fact that DS9 wasn't just more of the same, except now with space station goodness. From the very beginning, the entire feel of the show was completely unlike TOS or TNG. I will always have a huge soft spot in my heart for TOS, as I grew up on it in reruns. It's a product of its time, however, and they didn't do television back in the late 1960's like they do now, or like they did in the '90's. You could never have had a recurring character on TOS like Gul Dukat, or any of the other recurring Cardassians, people who wound up being far more than black hats in a white hat universe.

From observing various posts and posters to this board, I'm finding that those who gravitate toward the Cardassian stories have pretty similar mind sets and very little, if any, discomfort with ambiguity. It's a refreshing perspective to encounter among fellow Trek fans. Until this point, I had always felt a little bit like the odd man out when discussing the show with my own friends.
 
While still watching T.N.G at the time DS9 appeared, I had the tendency to compare them and found DS9 a little boring.

Then after the "switchover' I began to like it even more than T.N.G.

Later, I found I liked going back to watch Emissary, because it answered questions, and filled in the missing information.

One thing that was done well was establishing that the Bajorans just went through a terrible occupation, and that the Cardassians seemed very threatening-and powerful.....
 
About Bashir...I think he just needed to grow up. But then I think even the writers knew that. And what's really interesting...I think GARAK may have been the one to encourage him to do so, where others probably failed.

And Clay--SO glad to know I'm not the only one in the Old Dax Is Better camp!!!
 
I always had the feeling that Garak saw a lot of potential in the doctor. (Even setting aside the original intention AJR has stated for having Garak interested in him as a potential attraction interest, since the writers chose not to support that.) While he may not have known that Bashir was genetically enhanced, I do think he saw intelligence and wit beyond what Bashir displayed in the early episodes. I also think that despite his frequent complaints about it, he found his naivety and optimism charming and may even have been a tad bit jealous of Bashir's ability to trust and see the world in that way.
 
I always had the feeling that Garak saw a lot of potential in the doctor. (Even setting aside the original intention AJR has stated for having Garak interested in him as a potential attraction interest, since the writers chose not to support that.) While he may not have known that Bashir was genetically enhanced, I do think he saw intelligence and wit beyond what Bashir displayed in the early episodes. I also think that despite his frequent complaints about it, he found his naivety and optimism charming and may even have been a tad bit jealous of Bashir's ability to trust and see the world in that way.

Indeed, Garak even went so far as to suggest that Bashir was one of the few Humans who could think like a Cardassian (according to ASIT) of course as we can testify, that isn't too difficult;)
 
I always had the feeling that Garak saw a lot of potential in the doctor. (Even setting aside the original intention AJR has stated for having Garak interested in him as a potential attraction interest, since the writers chose not to support that.) While he may not have known that Bashir was genetically enhanced, I do think he saw intelligence and wit beyond what Bashir displayed in the early episodes. I also think that despite his frequent complaints about it, he found his naivety and optimism charming and may even have been a tad bit jealous of Bashir's ability to trust and see the world in that way.

Indeed, Garak even went so far as to suggest that Bashir was one of the few Humans who could think like a Cardassian (according to ASIT) of course as we can testify, that isn't too difficult;)

Yeah, it's not. Plus I think Garak lied a little about the nature of the Cardassian mind, to keep Bashir from feeling sorry for him.
 
Yeah, it's not. Plus I think Garak lied a little about the nature of the Cardassian mind, to keep Bashir from feeling sorry for him.

Garak...lied?! :cardie:

Shocking isn't it?;)

I must admit that Garak has a rare talent for obfuscation.

Channeling Tain...betraying your position in Central Command, are you? ;) The balance of power shifts again...

*Quietly pushes for reduced funding to the Obsidian Order*
 
NG- I really enjoyed your review of "Emissary". Please keep this up, I'll be following it! :)

As for the Galors, hmmm...in TNG it did of course mention "type three" Galor-class vessels as "top of the line". Maybe the three types are indeed differentiated by internal configuration despite being a part of the same class, sharing a basic frame for the hull? You could have fun attempting to decide which bridge design represents an older, less prestigious "type"!
 
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One of Star Trek's most awesome exchanges ever:

"What I want to know is...of all the stories you've told me...which ones were true...and which ones were not?"

:lol: "My dear Doctor...they're all true."

"Even the lies...?" :)

"Especially...the lies...." :angel:
 
NG- I really enjoyed your review of "Emissary". Please keep this up, I'll be following it! :)

As for the Galors, hmmm...in TNG it did of course mention "type three" Galor-class vessels as "top of the line". Maybe the three types are indeed differentiated by internal configuration despite being a part of the same class, sharing a basic frame for the hull? You could have fun attempting to decide which bridge design represents an older, less prestigious "type"!

With regards to what I like to call the AK-47 of the Starship world, the immortal Galor, I think that DN is on to something.

During the run of DS9 there are several variants of the Galors mentioned, the Destroyer which seems to have come to prominence during the DW, the attack cruiser (or cruiser) and a possible battleship type (perhaps the type three?)
Unfortunately it is hard to ascertain the exact capabilities of this subclasses or variants due to conflicting evidence of Cardassian weapon and shield technology.

Given the nature of the regime on Cardassia, it is safe to assume that the Galor has many different subclasses given the symbolic value of the class name and hull configuration.
(In fact it is an idea I took up in my Fanfic Checkmate with the Raptor type).
 
It's been quie a while since I last saw Emisary, but I remember thinking it was both very good and rather boring. We really got a good introduction to all characters except Julian (At that point, his character was simply "the doctor", with no further character traits)
"Dorkiness" is a kind of character trait. :p

Nerys, I agree fully that DS9's was leaps and bounds ahead of any other pilot (though I didn't hate EaF :p ). I watched Emissary not too long ago, and there's still a lot to be impressed by, even though the actors--imo--aren't totally in their roles yet.*

*Big exceptions: Alaimo, as you pointed out. Dukat's spot on from moment one. Brooks likewise is very good, even if not quite at peak performance. And since Emissary is effectively Sisko's story, the other actors still getting settled doesn't matter as much as it might otherwise have done.
 
^Yes.

An example: Sisko's clash with Picard. It starts off with, "It's been a long time, Captain...."

At first, Picard cordially tries to direct the subject away from Wolf 359. But when Sisko's bitterness continues (and we feel the bitterness eminating from Avery's superb acting!), you can tell that Picard's getting a little pissed off, too. And the final climax comes with Picard narrowing his eyes and saying in a rather frustrated tone, "In the meantime--" followed by Sisko's furious, "In the meantime...I will carry out my duties to the best of my abilities, sir!"

Excellent scene. A big shame Picard never appeared again on the show....
 
I actually got two emotions from Picard...yeah, he was pissed on one hand, but I also thought he was upset. For a little while there, he seems to become less...commanding, and even a bit lost for words.
 
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