Vulcan or Andoria?

[ChristopherPike]

It's fun to think of plot lines like this. A McCarthy-esque witch hunt going on among Vulcans for instance. It doesn't seem likely V'Las could rise to such a powerful position without support, or sleeper agents still active within the High Command.

As with past storylines, the Andorians would revert to their old distrustful ways, getting back into a conflict with the Vulcans... maybe even Humanity this time too. But Archer would always have Shran's ear (or antenna ). Having lost his ship and been banished in disgrace, he would be a free agent by that season and an unofficial advisor living aboard the NX-01... or so I imagine.

 

[Robert Treat]

Prior to IaMD some fans had postulated Surak died as an infant in the MU and the Vulcans retained their militarism. From the way the Vulcans acted in the Federation universe, it sometimes seems to me there was a transpostion between the two universe's Vulcans.

 

[SFRabid]

Neither. Join the Romulans. Force the Vulcans, Andorians and Tell's into submission. Then go after the Klingons. In the middle of that war, turn on the Romulans before they turn on us. Divide the Romulan empire with the Klingsons, plus have control of the Federation.

Well on the way to galatic domination and screwing canon like it has never been messed with before.

 

[Thor Damar]

Neither. Join the Romulans. Force the Vulcans, Andorians and Tell's into submission. Then go after the Klingons. In the middle of that war, turn on the Romulans before they turn on us. Divide the Romulan empire with the Klingsons, plus have control of the Federation.

Well on the way to galatic domination and screwing canon like it has never been messed with before.

Basically let the Humans BE the Humans

 

[Qued]

As with past storylines, the Andorians would revert to their old distrustful ways, getting back into a conflict with the Vulcans...

See I always saw it another way around. It was alwasy the Vulcans being the distrustful ones. Shran and the other Andorians always seemed honest and honorable, well atleast towards Archer.

 

[SFRabid]

Sharan did. Not the governing Anderians. They did order Sharan to capture the Xindi weapon and bring it back to be reverse engineered. That is the real reason they let Sharan help archer in the first place.

 

[ChristopherPike]

As with past storylines, the Andorians would revert to their old distrustful ways, getting back into a conflict with the Vulcans...

See I always saw it another way around. It was always the Vulcans being the distrustful ones. Shran and the other Andorians always seemed honest and honorable, well at least towards Archer.

You're absolutely right! I had probably just recently watched The Andorian Incident before I posted that. Shran was won over in his trust for humans by Season 2, particularly thanks to Archer. While the Vulcan High Command's motives generally deserved distrust, before the Syrranite takeover.

 

[rahullak]

Remain Neutral.
Engineer two separate attacks on the Romulans that frame the Vulcans and the Andorians. Watch as Romulus declares war on Vulcan and Andor, which would cause them to set aside their mutual hostility and the coalition fights the Romulans.

 

[Lt. Reth]

Remain Neutral.
Engineer two separate attacks on the Romulans that frame the Vulcans and the Andorians. Watch as Romulus declares war on Vulcan and Andor, which would cause them to set aside their mutual hostility and the coalition fights the Romulans.

...or...

The Vulcans and the Andorians, having been blamed for the attacks, blame each other for both the attacking and the framing, and then destroy each other while being helped along in the destruction by the Romulans.

Then, with them out of the way, the Romulans decide that since Tellar and Earth were also Coalition members, they're also partly responsible, and that starts an alternate version of the Romulan War, and since the Vulcans and Andorians can't help, who knows how that goes?

In short: so much drama.

 

[T'Girl]

Ever notice thru the various series and movies, that the more and more we learn of the vulcans, the less "desirable" and more despicable they become? Whatever happen to logical and non-violent, peace and long-life?

 

[Kira Nerys]

Quite a headache .

 

[Bones2]

Gene Roddenberry must be spinning in his...in his whatever they put his ashes in when they blasted him into space.

 

[apenpaap]

^Because people like his show so much that they think of Alternate Universes for it?

 

[Bones2]

Well, more because he liked to think of humans being more morally upright in the future than people are suggesting. We have Romulans for the nasty conniving future race.

That aside, I'd side with the Andorians.

 

[pookha]

Andoria was definitely a better friend to Earth than Vulcan was. I've often described the relations between Earth and Vulcan as a benign occupation. When things got difficult for Earth, it was Andoria that helped, not Vulcan. That makes me want to side with Andoria.

However, my more level-headed side thinks that joining with Tellar in staying out of it might be the prudent course of action. Earth has its own problems to deal with without getting sucked into a war between Vulcan and Andoria. Plus, if the Vulcans and Andorians weaken each other, Earth will emerge as the local power.

actually it was more shran as an indivual that helped.
the andorians just wanted the proto type of the weapon.

it was shran possibly against orders who sent back the blue prints of the prototype.

i am with hopeful romantic.
try as hard as possible to work things out between the two races.
show that the vulcans very possibly had suffered from romulan space at one time being within the vulcan government until tpau did the great purge.

there already is an amount of trust between sovall and shran and it could be a gateway of working things out.

Ever notice thru the various series and movies, that the more and more we learn of the vulcans, the less "desirable" and more despicable they become? Whatever happen to logical and non-violent, peace and long-life?

actually they always have been complex.
frankly we see both good and bad vulcans as far back as amok time.
stonn and tpring come across as a couple of coniving bastards while tpau is wise and noble with kirk already holding her in high regard.

we learn in journey to babel that sarek though opposed to violence knows who to kill wiht his bare hands and is very capable of killing if he has a logical reason .

so gene , gene coon, dc fontana, ect all had a hand in showing that vulcans are far more complex then the goodie two shows totally non violent image some fans have.

 

[Subspace]

Earth should remain Neutral, just as the Vulcans did during the Xindi Conflict.

 

[caisson2delta]

If earth remained neutral, it might finally prove to the vulcans that the species has begun to mature. On more than one occasion, T'Pol would lecture Archer on staying out of affairs that did not concern them. In some weird way, the vulcans may respect this stance. From this point, seeing neutrality from two major forces of a coalition, there might then be room for more negotiation.

 

[Tallis Rhul]

The Vulcans and the Andorians were both quirky. My first reaction if I was calling the shots for Earth would be to bang their heads together and tell them not to be so stupid, although I don't think that would provoke the best of responses among them. And the blue things love to hit stuff.

Seriously though, I don't think it would be worth risking alienating (no pun intended) either side - they're both useful in their own way, and much as the Vulcans were portrayed as being "funny" with us, they had their own way of helping out when needed, particularly in the first season.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Vulcans, definitely. When in doubt, ally yourself with the pointiest-eared folks.