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Teen reviewer unimpressed by Walkman

Camelopard, I'll have to disagree there. At the very least, the idea that it's only a small increase might as well be used for the horse-car analogy. After all, both a horse and a car can be used to get a person from one point to another without having to walk. The difference is the car does it faster.

This.

I hate, hate, hated tape players of any kind. I gladly threw out all my tapes.

I had a primitive MP3 player that I won for free in 1999 and people gave me funny looks when I wore it to the gym. It held 15 songs or so at CD quality.

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Today even my slim phone doubles as a music player:

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Man, I had a walkman growing up and even THEN I knew the thing sucked and that there had to be a better way.
 
Man, I had a walkman growing up and even THEN I knew the thing sucked and that there had to be a better way.


The reviewer could have checked newer models too: While most are discontinued, I hear this one was top of the line:

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My wife forced me to buy a Walkman for her in 2002-03 to play some inspirational tapes, looked a bit like this one:

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Man, I had a walkman growing up and even THEN I knew the thing sucked and that there had to be a better way.

Really? I loved my walkman. I never went anywhere without it tucked into the mickey pocket of my leather jacket.

I loved my discman too, but like I said, this required a man-purse to carry, and as a result, I was subjected to regular drive-by catcalls of "nice purse!" etc. from adolescent males.

I can't say I love my iPod--I still have a discman, for when I want to listen to my classical music. But I do appreciate the fact that my consumption of AA batteries has dropped by 99 per cent.

There's no question that the cassette walkman was doomed to disappear. Although revolutionary, it was invented around the same time as something equally if not more revolutionary, the compact disc

As a military historian, the history of the walkman reminds me, oddly enough, of the history of the submachine gun.

This, too, was a revolutionary weapon--a light, fully automatic carbine designed for offence--the first true 'assault weapon'. And you can get a sense of just how destructive even these early weapons could be in Michael Mann's recent film Public Enemies.

The trouble with the SMG (as with the walkman) was its ammunition. Pistol ammunition lacked the range, accuracy, and power of rifle ammunition. So, for a while, you had soldiers armed with a mixture of rifles and SMGs--just as, for a while, you had people using a mixture of CDs and cassettes.

The challenge was to combine the features of both weapons in a single weapon. And this was done, ultimately, by changing the ammunition.

The first solution--the discman of infantry combat, if you will--was the German MP44 and the Soviet AK-47, which were loaded with shortened rifle cartridges, but fired a full-sized bullet.

But this, like the discman, was never a fully satisfactory solution. The true solution was a small-caliber rifle bullet fired at very high velocities--the 5.56 mm cartridge of the American M-16 rifle.

This, if you will, was the iPod of infantry combat. And virtually every industrialized country nowadays arms its soldiers with a variation on the M-16 'serial bullet rifle' concept. Among other advantages, it, much like the iPod, allows the soldier to carry much more ammunition into battle. But just as the iPod uses a 'lossy' format, the modern assault rifle lacks the range and accuracy provided by a full-powered rifle cartridge.

With that unusual but, I think, apt metaphor, it's time for bed.
 
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You're so behind times with your music only implants RoJo? What about a full library of the world video? and fetal iphone implant? and fetal broadband? and the obligatory fetal world-of-warcraft-client implant? :p

His parents were cheap and wouldn't spring for the really good implants. Plus they bought off off-brand so he has to listen to an unskippable commercial for Quiznos every five songs.
 
I read somewhere a couple of weeks ago that audio tape sales have increased significantly over the past couple of years.

Either the police are doing a lot more recorded interviews, or many people are enjoying a retro revival.

People miss the bias hiss? :confused:

Cassette tapes suffer from relatively poor sound reproduction. A good piece of vinyl still sounds better than anything else short of a live performance, in my opinion.
 
I still use my Panasonic Shockwave Walkman...it looks like a piece of shit because I took it apart and put it back together again but lost a few pieces to the buttons but I sitll take it around everywhere because I listen to talk radio so much and MP3 players do not have the cababilty of playing AM. I know there are podcasts and stuff but I don't have regular internet access to download them so I've never bothered. I might though...just still always use my walkman though lol.
 
But just as the iPod uses a 'lossy' format...

Not really. And many DAP's support equivalent lossless formats. That most people use lossy MP3's (and in the iPod's case, increasingly AAC's I'd imagine) is certainly not in doubt, but in no way is this a limit of either the specific iPod platform or digital audio players in general.
 
Ahh.. the 80s.

I had a very cool Sony Walkman.. it played music (of course) but also had a voice recorder option (cool as hell.. never used it though) and radio.

I used to listen to radio when it was lights out and i was supposed to be sleeping.

Good old 80s.. :( (well, not really.. i'd chuck this Walkman in the bin if i could have gotten an Ipod or any digital technology ;):lol:).
 
The reviewer could have checked newer models too: While most are discontinued, I hear this one was top of the line:

Well, since this is the 30th anniversary of the Walkman's introduction it makes sense to "review" the first one. The newer ones would only change things like the size and quality of it but not the cumbersome-ness of tapes.
 
But just as the iPod uses a 'lossy' format...

Not really. And many DAP's support equivalent lossless formats. That most people use lossy MP3's (and in the iPod's case, increasingly AAC's I'd imagine) is certainly not in doubt, but in no way is this a limit of either the specific iPod platform or digital audio players in general.

If that's the only flaw you could find in my extended analogy, then I think I did pretty well.

My analogy can accommodate this new information as well. While modern assault rifles lack the long-range accuracy of their counterparts from a hundred years ago, most soldiers are still incapable of realizing more than a fraction of their potential accuracy under any kind of battlefield conditions. That's why the US Army has sunk so much money recently into programs like Advanced Combat Rifle and Objective Individual Combat Weapon, with so little result.

In any case...if I could upgrade my iPod to CD-quality sound, or acquire another player that would do the job, then that would allow me to finally put the discman out to pasture. I should investigate this.
 
I always think its funny watching TV shows from the early 90s where teenagers all had pagers.

I remember wanting one. Hahahaha. My dad had a pager up till he got his first Blackberry a few years ago. I thought about that today...
 
Well, while I enjoyed my Walkman and its ability to let me listen to the radio and play audio cassettes, on my iPod I can:

- Access every one of the thousands of songs I own, with still more room than I could ever need. Search to find said songs by title, artist, album, genre, rating, recently added, recently played, etc.
- Watch movies, TV shows, YouTube videos, download podcasts, and listen to audio books.
- Watch live TV and listen to live radio with accessories.
- Play games.
- I can use it as a portable hard drive for viewing maps, text files, books, photos, etc.
- Use the calendar and contact list.

All in something a little bigger than a deck of cards with no batteries that frequently need changing.
 
I sense a long reply where I break down quotes. Apologies in advance for that.

Camelopard, I'll have to disagree there. At the very least, the idea that it's only a small increase might as well be used for the horse-car analogy. After all, both a horse and a car can be used to get a person from one point to another without having to walk. The difference is the car does it faster.

That must be why we've built so many roads, and parking lots, and gas stations, and other infrastructure to accommodate automobiles: because they're not all that different from horses.

Well, no, that was to address the shortcoming of the automobile. One could argue that there are apparatuses for MP3 players that were created specifically for it that don't exist for a walkman (devices like iHomes to play music, plus online music stores, which, once again, didn't exist for cassettes because the technology wasn't there).

Come on. Be serious--and that goes for your parrot, sidious168, as well. If you're going to use analogies, try to use them seriously.

My parrot? What the flying fuck?

The difference between a horse and a car is both profound and essential--far more profound and essential, even, than the difference between riding a horse and walking.

The transition from mechanical to electro-chemical energy...

...that is to say,the transition from muscle-, water-, and wind-power to coal, oil, and electricity...

...is nothing less than the transition from pre-industrial to industrial civilization. For good or ill, it marks one of the most important epochs in the history of civilization, the history of humanity, and the history of the world.

By comparison, the transition from the Walkman to the iPod is trivial to the point of ridiculousness.

The transfer to digital music is meaningless?

Anyone who thinks otherwise is suffering from historical myopia, and needs the intellectual equivalent of corrective lenses

Honestly, as a history major, I try and take the long view to things and see what little change profound events can seem to have (I'm someone who believes that William the Conqueror's invasion of England didn't radically alter the social system of the nation much less bring in so-called feudalism to the nation and lead to the modern English system of law). However, when looking at the progression of technology in history, there can be no doubt that it has been advancing at an exponential rate. We are now in the digital age and technology thirty years ago is very far behind what it is today. These aren't superficial differences.

The invention of the Walkman was a key event in the cultural transition from classical modernity to late modernity, or post-modernity, or whatever you want to call our present condition. It broke finally with the classically-modern model of broadcast mass entertainment, which had reached its ultimate expression in the transistor radio.

The idea of digital music and the mp3 player has threatened the entire order of the music industry. The rise of napster and the continued prevalence of internet piracy brings into question the idea of music publishers. The fact that Radiohead released an album where you could name your own price or no name crappy bands getting record deals based on their Myspace page (*cough*Panicatthedisco*cough*) shows the significance of the change. And, yes, this technically isn't directly connected to the mp3 player, but it has certainly accelerated this process because you don't have to make a mix and burn it to a CD. One could argue that this whole system will lead to the death of the album at least in a physical form (something I don't like, but is certainly possible). There's also the connection between music, entertainment, and the internet and how things like the iPhone and iPod Touch have dramatically expanded the way you can be mobile while still connected to the internet.

SF author and cultural critic Bruce Sterling saw this clearly more than twenty years ago, even if other people did not. In his introduction to Mirrorshades: The Cyberpunk Anthology, published in 1986, he wrote:

Technology itself has changed. Not for us the giant steam-snorting wonders of the past: the Hoover Dam, he Empire State Building, the nuclear power plant. Eighties tech sticks to the skin, responds to the touch: the personal computer, the Sony Walkman, the portable telephone, the soft contact lens.
Emphasis added.

The difference between a Walkman and an iPod is comparable to the difference between, say, a Springfield 1903 rifle and today's M4 carbine.

The M4 may have a larger magazine, and a collapsible buttstock, and pistol grips, and more sophisticated sights, and select-fire capability.

But those improvements are all just incremental. In essence, rifles haven't changed much in the past hundred years--and the Springfield is still a better weapon, under certain circumstances, than its high-tech successor. The real paradigm shift in firearms design came in the late 19th century--along with so many other key inventions of the 2nd Industrial Revolution, like the automobile--or for that matter, the phonograph.

That's where I disagree. To argue it's superficial changes based on the fact that uses are similar doesn't make sense. If we go with weapons analogies, it's closer to a crossbow and early guns in that the principle behind them is different. Except one thing, crossbows were probably better. The iPod offers at least slight advantages in most things compared to the Walkman.

Yeah... going from an analog, sequential and short storage medium to a digital, non-sequential wide medium is most certainly not a small, iterative change.

I don't agree.

And even if that was true, you're ignoring the fact that part of this change had already been accomplished, with the introduction of CDs.

So your revolution was already over before MP3s were introduced.

I think that furthers my point. Part of the reason why there's such a dramatic step between the Walkman and the mp3 player is that there was a step in between the laid the foundation. But to compare these two things is to basically compare technologies of a different age. The Walkman was extremely important, but it has been replaced by something else that will carve out its own mark on history.
 
Well, while I enjoyed my Walkman and its ability to let me listen to the radio and play audio cassettes, on my iPod I can:

- Access every one of the thousands of songs I own, with still more room than I could ever need. Search to find said songs by title, artist, album, genre, rating, recently added, recently played, etc.
- Watch movies, TV shows, YouTube videos, download podcasts, and listen to audio books.
- Watch live TV and listen to live radio with accessories.
- Play games.
- I can use it as a portable hard drive for viewing maps, text files, books, photos, etc.
- Use the calendar and contact list.

All in something a little bigger than a deck of cards with no batteries that frequently need changing.

Yes.

So?
 
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