Fantastic 4 reloaded?

[Icemizer]

The two movies suffered from many problems but the absolute killer was bad villain syndrome. Doom just flat out sucked. Without a great bad guy to feed off of your heroes always look dull. They might as well have had Paste Pot Pete make an appearance and threaten the FF for all the good that horrific Doom character did. Even in the armor Doom was bad.

I am all for a reboot and a movie without Doom in it. Perhaps they would be better off fighting a version of the Frightful Four, the Inhumans, or maybe even an invasion by the Shiar.

 

[C.E. Evans]

I think I remember hearing about plans to reboot the FF movies earlier this year, and to be honest I'm really kind of indifferent about the whole thing. I don't think the two movies were bad at all, but they weren't the kind of films to build a really strong movie franchise upon--ala Spider-man or the X-Men--and I think that's what the corporate suits want.

I think in terms of FF, "dark" probably means just something a bit more seriously than the first two films. I don't think we'll see Reed become a former victim of child molestation and Johnny a recovering crackhead, but I could see the new reboot being visually and thematically darker while still maintaining the classic relationships among the characters.

I actually think they should look at the short-lived Marvel Knights: Four series which was a darker take on the FF, but also didn't depict any of the team members out of character...

 

[Anwar]

If they wanted "Dark" they could go for a story of them fighting off an invasion by Annihilus from the Negative Zone, but that would be too "far out" for audiences to accept.

 

[iguana_tonante]

If they do another one, I think it's key that they cast someone who actually looks old enough to plausibly have white streaks in their hair to play Mr. Fantastic (like Captain Pike in "Star Trek"), and someone who actually has blonde hair and blue eyes to play the Invisible Girl instead of dying the hair of the actress and giving her blue eye contacts. That's just absurd. I'm not saying every character in a movie has to look exactly as they do in the comics. I don't even mind the casting of Kingpin in "Daredevil", but these two choices were very stupid.

I kind of agree. Reed's streaks were ridiculous. I didn't even mind Jessica Alba as Sue too much, but the super-fake looking contact lenses pulled me out of the movie every time. I would have preferred if the stuck with her normal appearance an just explained it as "Sue Storm is a brunette now, get over it".

 

[FPAlpha]

Exactly.. just like they did with Wolverine.

Instead of finding a 1,5m high, extremely hairy bum off the streets they went with a decent actor who's of normal height and build (and who made the character his own).

Blonde hair and blue eyes don't make the character of Sue.. it was just an artistic choice back then by the artist.

 

[Too Much Fun]

Exactly.. just like they did with Wolverine.

Instead of finding a 1,5m high, extremely hairy bum off the streets they went with a decent actor who's of normal height and build (and who made the character his own).

Blonde hair and blue eyes don't make the character of Sue.. it was just an artistic choice back then by the artist.

Yeah, I know, but this is the point I made in another thread - unlike Hugh Jackman, Jessica Alba wasn't chosen because she was right for the part. She was chosen because she's attractive and because she was sort of a hot property at the time (as in America's favourite babe of the moment, a title that Jessica Biel and Megan Fox seemed to inherit later on).

If you're going to cast someone who looks so different from their comic book counterpart, at least make the change justified by putting an ideal actor in the role. Michael Clarke Duncan is a different race than Kingpin of the comics and Ian Mckellan wasn't as physically imposing as Magneto has been drawn, but it didn't matter because they're good actors. What annoys me about Alba is she both doesn't look anything like Sue Storm and she's not a good enough actress to justify being cast in the role despite that.

 

[bigdaddy]

Ok, I don't get it.

If the Fantastic Four aren't supposed to light and quirky but they're not supposed to be dark either. Then someone please explain how they're supposed to be?

Entertaining.

 

[VulcanJedi]

I don't think it's going to be possible to make fans happy with a Fantastic Four movie. The movies we got from Fox followed the spirit of the source material pretty well (read through some of those ridiculous early issues of the series), but fans have built up this high standard for FF that even they can't adequately express.

But now that the Tim Story version has been poo-pooed to death, we'll get something *really* different. Better the devil you know, kids.

I like the FF movies! What is wrong with these people? Didn't the movies do well? Are they beholden to niche-market comics fans now? The FF films were a welcome, family friendly change from the usual brooding fare we've been soaked in lately.

 

[Shazam!]

I like the FF movies! What is wrong with these people? Didn't the movies do well? Are they beholden to niche-market comics fans now? The FF films were a welcome, family friendly change from the usual brooding fare we've been soaked in lately.

Relative to how great they could've been, the FF movies are actually the worst comic book movies to date. They're the Nemesis of comic book movies.

It's nice that you enjoyed them though.

 

[Mutara Nebula 1967]

Best thing they can do is NOT cast a name actor for the THE THING...thereby reducing the need to twist the story so that Michael Chiklis can get face time without prosthetics by reverting Ben to human form.

 

[barnaclelapse]

I'm starting to think there's just some comic books that can't be made into good films.

 

[Noname Given]

I like the FF movies! What is wrong with these people? Didn't the movies do well? Are they beholden to niche-market comics fans now? The FF films were a welcome, family friendly change from the usual brooding fare we've been soaked in lately.

Relative to how great they could've been, the FF movies are actually the worst comic book movies to date. They're the Nemesis of comic book movies.

It's nice that you enjoyed them though.

You clearly never saw either of the new Punisher, Daredevil; Elektra, or Ang Lee's Hulk.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Or simply Roger Corman's original Fantastic Four movie that was reportedly so bad that it was never released commercially in the U.S (it wasn't even good enough for direct-to-video)...

 

[miraclefan]

and someone who actually has blonde hair and blue eyes to play the Invisible Girl instead of dying the hair of the actress and giving her blue eye contacts.

OKAY! if she's in it I'll go see it.

 

[The Comedian]

By "darker", perhaps they mean the Ultimate Fantastic Four?

 

[captcalhoun]

even that's not really THAT dark...

and Story Four stole some UF4 stuff - Sue's nose bleeds for one, Doom at the origin for another - any how.

 

[INACTIVESamusAranX]

I like the FF movies! What is wrong with these people? Didn't the movies do well? Are they beholden to niche-market comics fans now? The FF films were a welcome, family friendly change from the usual brooding fare we've been soaked in lately.

Relative to how great they could've been, the FF movies are actually the worst comic book movies to date. They're the Nemesis of comic book movies.

It's nice that you enjoyed them though.

You clearly never saw either of the new Punisher, Daredevil; Elektra, or Ang Lee's Hulk.

Don't forget the the piles of crap known fondly as Catwoman and Batman and Robin.

 

[TheArsenal]

[of Ultimate Fantastic 4:] even that's not really THAT dark...

and Story Four stole some UF4 stuff - Sue's nose bleeds for one, Doom at the origin for another - any how.

It's not that dark. And any seriousness in the Ultimate version is offset by their lighter, decidedly jokey teen approach to many of those slightly more weighty problems.

And the article says not just dark, but "far darker", whatever that means. My bet is everyone has their eye on the Joker, and they ratchet up the bad guy accordingly.

 

[exodus]

If they wanted "Dark" they could go for a story of them fighting off an invasion by Annihilus from the Negative Zone, but that would be too "far out" for audiences to accept.

Power cosmic, Galactus & Silver Surfer........all from outer space.
You can't get much more "far out" than that.

 

[Shazam!]

You clearly never saw either of the new Punisher, Daredevil; Elektra, or Ang Lee's Hulk.

They were all better than the FF movies. The director's cut of Daredevil is pretty damn good. Elektra was so bland it barely registers as an offense. Finally, Ang Lee's Hulk and the new Punisher film had some real moments of character genius.