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Fantastic 4 reloaded?
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Retarded people...they wouldn't have to reboot Fantastic Four if they had done it right in the first place.
Admiral Young
Admiral Young
'Dark' Fantastic Four? Meh.
The best idea I ever heard about an FF flick was a while back... I think it was Peyton Reed, who did Down With Love, who was attached to FF at one point. He was talking about doing it as a period piece, with a very Hard Day's Night kind of tone. I think that would be a great way to go. What FF really needs is a solid, faithful take that skews as close to the feel of the Stan & Jack original as possible, and I think that so much of that feel is inextricably tied to the era in which it originated. 'Dark' or 'gritty' or 'realistic' have no place in a Fantastic Four adaptation.
(Well, maybe a little bit of darkness in Ben's case, as he struggles to come to grips with what's happened to him. There were times early in the series where Ben was just about teetering on the precipice of being a Hulk-style outcast, wanting the 'puny humans to leave him alone'. But I wouldn't want to dwell on that too long--to get the classic FF tone, you need to have Ben finally evolve into Aunt Petunia's Favorite Ever-Lovin' Blue-Eyed Nephew that we all know and love.)
Fantastic Four needs to tend far closer to Batman: The Brave And The Bold than it does to The Dark Knight. That's all there is to it.
And I'll tell you what else--you need a production designer who can really bring Jack Kirby's visuals to life. Reed's lab gear and gadgets in the last two films? Unimaginitive second-rate Star Trek stuff (NTTAWWT...
). I wanna see some Kirby Machines, darnit!
--g
The best idea I ever heard about an FF flick was a while back... I think it was Peyton Reed, who did Down With Love, who was attached to FF at one point. He was talking about doing it as a period piece, with a very Hard Day's Night kind of tone. I think that would be a great way to go. What FF really needs is a solid, faithful take that skews as close to the feel of the Stan & Jack original as possible, and I think that so much of that feel is inextricably tied to the era in which it originated. 'Dark' or 'gritty' or 'realistic' have no place in a Fantastic Four adaptation.
(Well, maybe a little bit of darkness in Ben's case, as he struggles to come to grips with what's happened to him. There were times early in the series where Ben was just about teetering on the precipice of being a Hulk-style outcast, wanting the 'puny humans to leave him alone'. But I wouldn't want to dwell on that too long--to get the classic FF tone, you need to have Ben finally evolve into Aunt Petunia's Favorite Ever-Lovin' Blue-Eyed Nephew that we all know and love.)
Fantastic Four needs to tend far closer to Batman: The Brave And The Bold than it does to The Dark Knight. That's all there is to it.
And I'll tell you what else--you need a production designer who can really bring Jack Kirby's visuals to life. Reed's lab gear and gadgets in the last two films? Unimaginitive second-rate Star Trek stuff (NTTAWWT...
). I wanna see some Kirby Machines, darnit!--g
I don't think it's going to be possible to make fans happy with a Fantastic Four movie. The movies we got from Fox followed the spirit of the source material pretty well (read through some of those ridiculous early issues of the series), but fans have built up this high standard for FF that even they can't adequately express.
But now that the Tim Story version has been poo-pooed to death, we'll get something *really* different. Better the devil you know, kids.
But now that the Tim Story version has been poo-pooed to death, we'll get something *really* different. Better the devil you know, kids.
If they do another one, I think it's key that they cast someone who actually looks old enough to plausibly have white streaks in their hair to play Mr. Fantastic (like Captain Pike in "Star Trek"), and someone who actually has blonde hair and blue eyes to play the Invisible Girl instead of dying the hair of the actress and giving her blue eye contacts. That's just absurd. I'm not saying every character in a movie has to look exactly as they do in the comics. I don't even mind the casting of Kingpin in "Daredevil", but these two choices were very stupid.
I tend to agree, and Reed wasn't the sort of "genius" that he should have been. He was too nerdy. And honestly I've said it before and I'll say it again, Ioan Gruffold would have been a great Hank Pym... not Mr. Fantastic. He could pull of that kinda nuts genius. But Reed is the kind of 50s pipe smoking, "Why its elementary my dear..." kind of super genius. And YES he's a fuckin' throw back! He's been written as a throwback ever since the 80s!
And yes gol'dammit give some some gol'damn Kirby looking gear!
And yes gol'dammit give some some gol'damn Kirby looking gear!
A period piece would be cool.
Pfft...already been done. Hulk, anyone? Punisher? Those reboots came on a few years after the previous films.
I am very inclined to agree. The FF movies were in touch with the spirit of the comic (though, I admit, the plots were a tad wobbly). But, yes, it seems people have put FF on a high standard that couldn't possibly be met.
Pfft...already been done. Hulk, anyone? Punisher? Those reboots came on a few years after the previous films.
I am very inclined to agree. The FF movies were in touch with the spirit of the comic (though, I admit, the plots were a tad wobbly). But, yes, it seems people have put FF on a high standard that couldn't possibly be met.
Ah, a darker take on Fantastic Four. Just when I think things can't get any more retarded. 
Of course, the huge success of Dark Trek guarantees that we'll be seeing more of this kind of garbage for years to come. Will the 80s never end?
Of course, the huge success of Dark Trek guarantees that we'll be seeing more of this kind of garbage for years to come. Will the 80s never end?
lol i was thinking that. that might be like trying to make archie comics more angsty and soap-operaish like those teen dramas.
I keep expecting them to bring back Peanuts by Robert Crumb; that would be about par for the course these days.
Realistic was the thing that saved modern superhero movies after the camp of the 90s. Realism in a sense that you didn't have your heroes run around in garish colors and try to have somewhat more serious stories.
FF did the exact opposite and paid the price.. it was a shallow attempt that was hugely supported by the studio yet fell through creatively and fell short of projected earnings.
I don't want a Dark Knight grittiness or darkness.. that is Batman's trademark and if they are shooting for that kind of tone than Fox is dumbers that i thought.
However i'll greet a more mature tone while keeping the fun and adventure in it.. Iron Man had this perfect balance for example.
Just don't cast the female lead for tits and ass quality and get others that have a presence onscreen.. about the only good thing were the Johnny Storm/Ben Grimm banter/relationship (though i'd wish for a more massive Thing.. CGI him up please.. you've got the technology to do that now).
I *liked* the two movies we had. They weren't The Dark Knight, sure, but they were fun comic-book larfs, and sometimes that's what the mood calls for.
I'd much rather we got a third flick from the same cast and crew.
Maybe without their version of Doom.
I'd much rather we got a third flick from the same cast and crew.
Maybe without their version of Doom.
