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Jaynz Anew

I would wisely take his advice

Well, the bigger questions will be "What will Jaynz treat as official" and what just happens to be in the gallery. I really haven't decided on the Saladin's upgrade yet. The TMP storyboards shows a couple of uprated Hermes and Saladins in the background, but unfortunatly not clear enough (in the images that I've seen) to work from.

ok then ^_^ well the book Starfleet Dynamics from David John Shimdt shows a interior view of the nacelle your using there but isnt the one your using here a LN-64 :confused:
 
ok then ^_^ well the book Starfleet Dynamics from David John Shimdt shows a interior view of the nacelle your using there but isnt the one your using here a LN-64 :confused:

I think the LN-64 was their modified version... I'll have to double check on all that when I get to the articles later this week.
 
Here's an alternate take on the Jenghiz, which I was considering for the torpedo mount (one I use for other ships like the Loknar). I decided to see what Andrew Probert's suggestion would look like this time and flipped the nacelle orientation as well. Still, I'm far from settled on this class at the moment...
Jaynz_Jenghiz_Alt1_2275.png
 
Having said that, if your design ws to make any kind of engineering sense, the warp engine would need to be turned upsidedown so the warp core power feeds would enter the engine at the same location (it's bottom) rather than being randomly stuck in the top, like the ILM people did on the USS Reliant.

I've never seen a good internal of the LN-40 design. If there's one out there, please point me to it. (I'll need it soon enough anyway). It doesn't, on a cursory glance, seem like it would be much of an issue to 'flip' the conduits for that kind of mount, though.

OR - this and the Reliant don't utilize the LN-40, but rather a different engine which happens to use a similar shell.
 
Here's an alternate take on the Jenghiz, which I was considering for the torpedo mount (one I use for other ships like the Loknar). I decided to see what Andrew Probert's suggestion would look like this time and flipped the nacelle orientation as well. Still, I'm far from settled on this class at the moment...
Jaynz_Jenghiz_Alt1_2275.png

god I love your work! In the top view on this, shouldn't the impulse engines be divided by the neck extension as shown in the side view?
 
This is a bit more of a coding update. I rewrote most of the gallery code on Jaynz and reuploaded the last set of archives. So, a lot of the images (though not all) are back up as of now. Yay! .... more to do...
 
Great to see you back, Vance.:techman::techman: Your work is great and well thought out and the colors to the ships really add life to the ships. Keep up the great work and keep on trekkin. :techman:
 
Actually, cosmetics aside, all of my starship configurations were predicated on Roddenberry's requirement that warp power is derived from tandem codependent warp engines. Warp power, according to Gene, is created between two warp engines...

That ship sailed, so to speak, a quarter century ago with the Oberth-class having its saucer between the nacelles.

And arguably GR voided his own "edict" as soon as he signed off on FJ's designs for the Star Fleet Technical Manual in 1975.

... an edict that has been pushed further into obscurity by the latest Trek abomination...

:rolleyes:

... featuring the USS Kelvin, with it's blue afterburner tail exhaust, so prevalent in all the Star Wars designs.

Again FJ deserves a lot of the blame if you don't like the single-nacelle design of the Kelvin. The TNG modelmakers' Freedom-class then followed this tradition.

As for the "afterburner" you seem to dislike too, something had to move or change on the ends of the TOS Enterprise nacelles since they changed from shot to shot. It's not hard to imagine that the white spheres were glowing or could have illuminated and could have been a "lit up" version of the vents we saw in other shots. Is it okay for the front, top, and sides of nacelles to illuminate but not the rear?

Having said that, if your design ws to make any kind of engineering sense, the warp engine would need to be turned upsidedown so the warp core power feeds would enter the engine at the same location (it's bottom) rather than being randomly stuck in the top, like the ILM people did on the USS Reliant.

There's nothing to indicate that, in-universe, the reverse didn't happen. The Miranda-class designers might've been dismayed when the engineering team working on the Enterprise refit put their nacelles on the pylons "wrong" and bodged together some sort of alternative power feed route.
 
And arguably GR voided his own "edict" as soon as he signed off on FJ's designs for the Star Fleet Technical Manual in 1975.

I always heard that GR came up with the edicts to discredit the FJ designs. I don't think he ever "signed off" on them. Can someone correct me if I heard this wrong?
 
And arguably GR voided his own "edict" as soon as he signed off on FJ's designs for the Star Fleet Technical Manual in 1975.

I always heard that GR came up with the edicts to discredit the FJ designs. I don't think he ever "signed off" on them. Can someone correct me if I heard this wrong?

I've heard that too.

Either:

(1) GR made up these "edicts" post-hoc simply to discredit the FJ designs, meaning we shouldn't take the rules as having any sort of engineering logic that applied to MJ's original design -- they'd just be specific ways to slam FJ's designs, or...

(2) GR made up these "edicts" during MJ's design process but sold out and signed off on the FJ designs to make a buck, meaning no one else in Trek should be held to a higher standard than that.

Either way, the "edicts" were first violated two or three decades ago, and they really don't have any place in canon Trek.

Hell, the nacelles on MJ's own shuttlecraft don't have an unobstructed view.
 
OK, I'll be the first to ask. What's the control panel looking thing on the starboard side of the primary hull seen in the top view?

Edit - Just realized, shuttlebay? Aren't you afraid of being chastised for breaking the great unwritten symmetry rule?;)
 
I always heard that GR came up with the edicts to discredit the FJ designs. I don't think he ever "signed off" on them. Can someone correct me if I heard this wrong?

It wasn't just Franz Joseph that Roddenberry wanted to discredit. At the time, the other source of 'tech' information for Star Trek was primarily the FASA RPG (for better or worse). While the edicts were most obviously and specifically geared to discredit the Technical Manual, that wasn't the only target. Really, all it was was that Roddenberry wanted to take Trek back out of the hands that he, himself, had sold it to over a decade earlier.

And yes, Roddenberry did indeed personally sign off on the contents of the Technical Manual before its release, and only started speaking ill of it when the internal politics of TMP were going against him.
 
another Movie era masterpiece and what you mean when you said by comission?

It means I got paid for some of this. :) Which, unfortunately, is looking more and more neccessary to keep the site going. (It doesn't require MUCH, mind you, but I really need to get it self sufficient soon).
 
ok how much $ for design then. Id like if you can do Mastercom's Adamant Class since it wasnt done in your old TMP style of Schematics :)
 
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