Sigourney Weaver's Ripley No 1 Sci-Fi Woman Of All Time!

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  1. Kitty Worrier

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    That must be frustrating to hear that. I wouldn't like it.

    Not sure about some of the poeple on this list. Rose Tyler didn't rock sci fi, IMO, neither did the Transformers chick. I'd have Major Kira on that list before Janeway.

    I also think that President Roslin did more for Sci Fi than Number Six.

    And why is Claire on that list?
     
  2. Jono

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    I'm surprised that Kara Thrace and Rose Tyler were in the top ten, yet Xena wasn't. In fact I wouldn't even list them in the top twenty-five at all. Megan Fox's character didn't even do anything in the first movie other then be a love interest.
     
  3. Lindley

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    Rose probably had a much bigger impact in Britain than the US.
     
  4. Greg Cox

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    I agree that Roslin is conspicuously absent.

    As for Claire . . . she's the super-powered female lead of a hit sf series--and the centerpiece of the whole "Save the cheerleader! Save the world!" storyline.

    That's fairly high-profile
     
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    Erm, that is debatable. But I think that both characters should be there. And should Starbuck. Not sure where all this hatred for her on this thread comes from? :wtf:

    However - Claire Bennet should definitely not be there, Rose Tyler is not exactly a character that shook SciFi, and it is inexcusable to leave out Kira or Aeryn Sun... 7 of 9 was an more interesting character than many on the list and should probably be there, too.

    Is the list supposed to be about high-profile characters, or characters who brought something new and interesting to SciFi? Claire is basically a teenage damsel in distress, only an indestructible one. She gets chased by a bad guy and keeps being a victim, only she heels every time. And BTW she is also despised by a huge number of fans of the show she is on, not for being iconoclastic :lol: but for the opposite reason, for being so uninteresting and never developing as a character. I don't mind her, but the writers never really found a way to develop her character in an interesting way.
     
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    Yes.

    Yes, she is.
     
  7. Trubinator

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    I don't really think anybody from BSG deserves to be on that list. But that's just me...
     
  8. DevilEyes

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    Yes, that's just you.

    BSG had more interesting female characters than any other SF show I can think of... actually, it had twice as many or 3 times as many interesting female characters than any other SF show. And that's without counting the Cylons as separate characters - which, of course, they are. That would make it something like 4 as many.
     
  9. Booji

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    I agree 100% with Trub. Emo bitchiness does not equal an interesting character. It equals gutter trash.
     
  10. Greg Cox

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    But the list was not just for positive role models. The fact that the BSG characters were so damaged and messed-up was what made them so fascinating. Who says great female characters have to be likable?

    Starbuck was a mess, but you couldn't take your eyes off her.
     
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    It was actually easy to take my eyes off her when she was a mess.

    Don't get me wrong---great character when she had it together. Seriously annoying when falling apart.
     
  12. Bad Bishop

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    This poll is pretty embarrassing after the Top 5.

    Uhura (I didn't know she had a first name) is #9? Only because Trekkies stuffed the ballot box. What did she ever do except sit at her switchboard? Can you say "token"?

    Claire from HEROES is #11? Please. How did such a lightweight character get so many votes?

    Willow from BUFFY is #21, ranked higher than a lead character like Xena? More ballot-box stuffing, courtesy of BUFFY fans this time.
     
  13. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    It's not a poll of SFF fans. The list was compiled by the editors of Total Sci-Fi (formerly Dreamwatch until it ceased publication as a magazine).
     
  14. Bad Bishop

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    A bunch of editors produced this list? I would have expected wiser choices from them. For example, there would have been no Alias at all if JJ Abrams hadn't been such a big fan of La Femme Nikita. And yet Sydney Bristow made the list but Nikita didn't. :wtf:
     
  15. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    Does La Femme Nikita have science fiction or fantasy aspects, though? Alias may not be overflowing with sci-fi, but it's definitely a strong enough element for Sydney Bristow to be included here from that point of view.
     
  16. Bad Bishop

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    La Femme Nikita was mostly straight-up spy action (like 24 today). But Nikita also had a lot of episodes with traditional SF elements, including telekinesis, clairvoyance, mind control, cloning and artificial intelligence.
     
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    Ah, right, thanks for that. I haven't seen much of the show (I intend to catch the full run in reruns sometime) and I didn't realize it sometimes had SF elements like that.
     
  18. Lindley

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    Well, there is the first interracial kiss thing.

    Oh, and her first name was a plot point of the new movie, although the dialog when you actually learn it goes by quickly and it's easy to miss. (It's the same name she's had in the novelverse for decades though.)

    It's Alyson Hannigan. She's a known face these days, and combined with a fairly substantial role on the series----including participation in the first lesbian sex scene on network television, among other things----that one isn't too surprising.
     
  19. Trubinator

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    Exactly! I'm glad we agree because it seems like everyone else just eats that crap up. Terrific summation too ... couldn't have said it better.
     
  20. Hermiod

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    Alias' Rambaldi business surely drove it in to the realm of science fiction, especially with the Zombie episodes and then what happened to Sloane in the end.

    On the other hand, should Xena really be in the list ? Are we not making a distinction between Sci-Fi and Fantasy ?