Ship Weapons in NuTrek

[RobertoRoss]

Hello everyone.

It doesnt seem to have been mentioned anywhere else...

The NuEnterprise seems to have the standard weapons that we would expect, photon torps and phasers that most closely resemble the pulse type beams from STII.

Now go back 25 years to the Kelvin incident and the ship is equipped with three types of weapons...
We see photon torps..
We see phasers with more of a beam shot that a pulse (no problem here, maybe there adjustable or pulses are more powerful etc)
and..
We see turret like pop up things that shoot white pulses like a point defence weapon (which is something Star Trek ships always struck me as missing)

I like the pop up turret weapons so this isnt a bashing thread lol I just wondered if anyone else had had any thoughts about them or even noticed it.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/249/usskelvin1.jpg

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[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

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We see turret like pop up things that shoot white pulses like a point defence weapon (which is something Star Trek ships always struck me as missing)

I like the pop up turret weapons so this isnt a bashing thread lol I just wondered if anyone else had had any thoughts about them or even noticed it.

The NX-01 Enterprise had phase canons which were attached to a turret that popped out from underneath the hall.

 

[RobertoRoss]

Does everyone class them as phase cannons then?

 

[RobertoRoss]

I think acording to the sceens the Kelvin has 6 turrets on the top and 6 on the bottom (or maybe even more than that) and two phaser banks on the top and two again on the bottom...I like it!

 

[Peter the Younger]

We see turret like pop up things that shoot white pulses like a point defence weapon (which is something Star Trek ships always struck me as missing)

I like the pop up turret weapons so this isnt a bashing thread lol I just wondered if anyone else had had any thoughts about them or even noticed it.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/249/usskelvin1.jpg

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Yeah, I like that there was point-defense going on, that was awesome.

As for their classification, I immediately thought plasma cannons, which we know existed in the NX-01 period. Early era phase cannons (besides being, um, somewhat similar to actual phasers) always fired beams. But plasma weapons always fired bolts that looked a lot like that.

And yeah, I know in the movie everything fires bolts, but I really don't see phase cannons and phasers as being a useful distinction.

 

[RobertoRoss]

We see turret like pop up things that shoot white pulses like a point defence weapon (which is something Star Trek ships always struck me as missing)

I like the pop up turret weapons so this isnt a bashing thread lol I just wondered if anyone else had had any thoughts about them or even noticed it.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/249/usskelvin1.jpg

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Yeah, I like that there was point-defense going on, that was awesome.

As for their classification, I immediately thought plasma cannons, which we know existed in the NX-01 period. Early era phase cannons (besides being, um, somewhat similar to actual phasers) always fired beams. But plasma weapons always fired bolts that looked a lot like that.

And yeah, I know in the movie everything fires bolts, but I really don't see phase cannons and phasers as being a useful distinction.

No me neither! I wonder what we should call them lol

 

[JonnyBoy]

I figured the turrets were plasma cannons or something similar, as well. On Memory-Alpha, I think someone wrote that they are pulse phaser cannons, but it doesn't make much sense to have phaser cannons and standard phaser banks as well. I don't recall seeing any photon torpedoes fired from the Kelvin, and I've seen the film six times. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Now go back 25 years to the Kelvin incident and the ship is equipped with three types of weapons...

Three? I only saw two: phasers and turrets. I actually assumed the turrets were a type of missile launcher for an exploration vessel with no offensive mission role and therefore wasn't armed with "real" photon torpedoes.

 

[Plecostomus]

Now go back 25 years to the Kelvin incident and the ship is equipped with three types of weapons...

Three? I only saw two: phasers and turrets. I actually assumed the turrets were a type of missile launcher for an exploration vessel with no offensive mission role and therefore wasn't armed with "real" photon torpedoes.

Drones... from Star Fleet Command/Starfleet Battles.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Kelvin didn't seem to have any of those either, though. I'm talking about something akin to those crappy spatial torpedoes in ENT, only smaller, faster and a lot more numerous.

 

[Peter the Younger]

Kelvin didn't seem to have any of those either, though. I'm talking about something akin to those crappy spatial torpedoes in ENT, only smaller, faster and a lot more numerous.

I could go for that as well. It would make a nice interim step between the NX-01 weapons and real photon torpedoes (I am willfully ignoring the existence of "photonic torpedoes.")

For a brief, mad moment, I also thought "Full Auto EM Rail Guns!" But yeah, probably not.

Oh, here's another interesting question - remember when Pike ordered Red Alert, and we saw crewmen loading what appeared to be cylindrical magazines with objects about the size of an anti-aircraft missile? What were those? Have photons gotten a whole lot smaller? The E didn't appear to have any pop-up turrets of the type we saw on the Kelvin.

 

[dillon3001]

Memory Alpha states that the Kelvin had phaser cannons the fired the bursts and phaser emitters that fired less powerful beams. I remember reading about this somewhere else as well but dont recall where.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Kelvin

 

[M'Sharak]

Memory Alpha states that the Kelvin had phaser cannons the fired the bursts and phaser emitters that fired less powerful beams. I remember reading about this somewhere else as well but dont recall where.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Kelvin

Here, maybe.

 

[RobertoRoss]

Hmm maybe the Kelvin doesnt have any torps, there does seems to be that typical darker strip on the bottom "neck" which starfleet ships have where the launcher is though.

Still. Turrets =

 

[dillon3001]

Memory Alpha states that the Kelvin had phaser cannons the fired the bursts and phaser emitters that fired less powerful beams. I remember reading about this somewhere else as well but dont recall where.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Kelvin

Here, maybe.

I remember seeing this thread and it made me remember where I first saw it on Intel's site (http://boldlygo.intel.com/)

Ahh i remember how cool i thought this was when i first saw it

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Oh, here's another interesting question - remember when Pike ordered Red Alert, and we saw crewmen loading what appeared to be cylindrical magazines with objects about the size of an anti-aircraft missile? What were those? Have photons gotten a whole lot smaller? The E didn't appear to have any pop-up turrets of the type we saw on the Kelvin.

Enterprise has no turrets and only a single photon torpedo launcher forward (and appears to have one aft as well on the bottom of the drive section) so this doesn't fit. I figured out after a while that these were actually power cells for the main phaser banks, similar to the ones we saw on the Defiant in the 24th century. Therefore, the scene where crewmen load the cells into tubes at battle stations (and earlier, during Chekov's announcement) is probably a modernization of the "Phaser Rooms" we saw in Balance of Terror.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Memory Alpha states that the Kelvin had phaser cannons the fired the bursts and phaser emitters that fired less powerful beams. I remember reading about this somewhere else as well but dont recall where.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Kelvin

Memory alpha got it from that other website that came out before the movie, based on analysis of the preview and some publicity images. It turns out to be inaccurate, though, since those short blue pulses are clearly NOT phaser blasts.

 

[nx1701g]

I figured the turrets were plasma cannons or something similar, as well. On Memory-Alpha, I think someone wrote that they are pulse phaser cannons, but it doesn't make much sense to have phaser cannons and standard phaser banks as well. I don't recall seeing any photon torpedoes fired from the Kelvin, and I've seen the film six times. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

The Miranda Class had both Phaser cannons and standard Phaser banks.

 

[JuanBolio]

I love that the photon torpedoes were blue and seemed appropriately powerful for antimatter weapons. One torpedo taking out an unshielded Klingon battlecruiser? Hell yeah.

I like how the Kelvin's separate pulse/beam phaser weaponry seemed to be streamlined and updated by the time of the Enterprise.

 

[Omega_Glory]

I figured the turrets were plasma cannons or something similar, as well. On Memory-Alpha, I think someone wrote that they are pulse phaser cannons, but it doesn't make much sense to have phaser cannons and standard phaser banks as well. I don't recall seeing any photon torpedoes fired from the Kelvin, and I've seen the film six times. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

The Miranda Class had both Phaser cannons and standard Phaser banks.

Was this ever stated on film?