Letterman beating Conan
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I'm more surprised it took this long to happen. It's going to take Conan a while to find his groove and build an audience in the earlier time slot. And there's no doubt he's up against an incredibly tough competitor with Letterman.
The real surprise here is Julia Roberts is a total biatch. Or maybe not.
The real surprise here is Julia Roberts is a total biatch. Or maybe not.
I wonder how long until Fallon runs out of SNL alums to guest on his show.
I'm not too surprised. I like Conan way more than Letterman, but I thought it strange they would bump Jay to shove Conan an hour earlier when he just doesn't seem to have as broad of an appeal (read: he's not completely bland like Leno).
I'm afraid Conan's focus group bit from the other night was probably just the tip of the demographic iceberg for him.
I'm afraid Conan's focus group bit from the other night was probably just the tip of the demographic iceberg for him.
12:35 to 1:35 gave Conan an audience just sufficiently sleep deprived to simulate mild drunkenness or light marijuana use, and just enough leeway that he could get a masturbating bear past the censors. The two together with his personality were just awesome. The earlier timeslot unfortunately means less masturbation and more alertness, a combination that is sure to injure his demographics.
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I will always watch Conan over Dave, even though I do like Letterman. As for Jimmy Fallon, I grew tired of him quickly. Craig Ferguson is far superior to Jimmy Fallon, and I'm surprised Fallon's still on the air.
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I don't watch any of the late night shows anymore, and haven't done so in quite some time, but it's going to be interesting to see how NBC's gambit plays out over the next year or so from a business/ratings point of view.
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Conan will succeed. It will just take time.
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I'll be going with not.
However bitch might be considered a sexist comment now so what out!
You know I recently rewatched "The Late Shift" which was a HBO movie about the Letterman and Leno late night wars and how NBC drove Dave to CBS. (BTW, the entire thing is on youtube so check it out. Search "Late Shift p1") I also have the book.
Anyway point being, I don't think NBC learned their lesson. The whole Leno leaving and Conan taking over was a little clunky. From what I have seen and heard Conan's contract said that if he wasn't given the Tonight Show by by 2010 NBC would have to pay him something like 50 million. So NBC forced Leno out of the Tonight Show by not renewing his contract. However, Leno didn't want to retire so then NBC got scared he would go to another network like Letterman did and gave him his own show that will now air before Conan.
It's just all weird and I don't feel very well run or thought out.
Compare that to CBS's late night situation which I think is very well organized. Probably due in large part to Letterman's production company (and thus Letterman) having basically complete control over both shows and hosts.
I figure Letterman will retire in 3 years or so. I wonder who will take his place? I'm sure whoever it is has already been told they are the successor and the transition will be pretty clean. Top contenders are Craig Ferguson or John Stewart if you ask me). There's always the outside chance that Craig Kilborn is just sitting pretty waiting in the wings to come back. He and Dave got along pretty well.
Anyway point being, I don't think NBC learned their lesson. The whole Leno leaving and Conan taking over was a little clunky. From what I have seen and heard Conan's contract said that if he wasn't given the Tonight Show by by 2010 NBC would have to pay him something like 50 million. So NBC forced Leno out of the Tonight Show by not renewing his contract. However, Leno didn't want to retire so then NBC got scared he would go to another network like Letterman did and gave him his own show that will now air before Conan.
It's just all weird and I don't feel very well run or thought out.
Compare that to CBS's late night situation which I think is very well organized. Probably due in large part to Letterman's production company (and thus Letterman) having basically complete control over both shows and hosts.
I figure Letterman will retire in 3 years or so. I wonder who will take his place? I'm sure whoever it is has already been told they are the successor and the transition will be pretty clean. Top contenders are Craig Ferguson or John Stewart if you ask me). There's always the outside chance that Craig Kilborn is just sitting pretty waiting in the wings to come back. He and Dave got along pretty well.
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^ Oh, man. Jon Stewart as late night talk show host? I don't know if I would be able to decide between him and Conan!
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what are the realastic chances of that happening anwyays? feel free to use %'s
I believe I read somewhere where Ferguson said that when Letterman leaves, he leaves.
http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/08/16/more-late-night-headaches-craig-ferguson-might-leave-too/
Fallon's just ugh. From lame SNL skits and "beef solvers" to this
http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/clips/intense-interview-will-ferrell-6909/1122643/
I hate how he can't keep a serious face
His monologue(if you call it that) sucks. Like ten "jokes" and that's it
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Conan Cackle.
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Nooooooooooo.
I got to think that Dave could sit down with him and get him to stay. After all Dave doesn't really like being a celebrity either. He keeps his private life very private.
This is neat because maybe Craig wouldn't want the Late Show and might be content just keeping his show. I think that makes sense because I don't know if Craig's format would translate well to the Letterman timeslot. Ferguson's show is low key and much more personal with a small audience and no band. He also pulls in good ratings (even before Fallon viewers jumped ship).
This means that they could bring in Stewart without stepping on anyone's toes. It would be win-win. Colbert would just slide over to the Daily Show seat.
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^ What would he do with the Report?
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