Exactly how many trades/issues did Ennis and Dillon do on Punisher? I got their original run back in the day and loved it, the one with Soap and the Russian and I think some ancient Italian female mob boss. I think it was a 12 issue run or something? And for the non-Dillion issues, how bad/good was the art?
That would be the first arc of the first series, "Welcome Back Frank".
Almost a decades worth of books for Ennis. He went past a hundred by the end. Dillon only worked on The Marvel Knights run. That was the first series. It was a black comedy book a la Preacher and The Boys, although toned down considerably considering it was a Marvel Mainline book. Like instead of saying "Motherfucker" they say "Motherlover".
Of The Marvel Knights run, the non-Dillon stuff was decent. Not great but nothing awful. Of course I'm not picky when it comes to art. A lot of people think McCrea(the guy after Dillon) sucks as an artist. But again, I'm not terribly picky. Mostly because I grew up in the era of Rob Liefield, so I'm kind of numb to bad art.
The MAX run is the more well known of the two series. It's where Ennis is allowed to be Ennis, and just do whatever the hell he wants. It's fucking great, dark, twisted insanity. But not for the easily offended. When he has a crazy fellow vigilante who's lost both breasts to cancer, tie a wounded Castle up, takes off all of her clothes, then beat her captured evil Mafia sister to death with a baseball bat, then begins to rape/fuck Castle while covered in blood, before finally blowing her own brains out with a .44 as she climaxes..well...you can't really say Ennis just crossed a line, because he was too busy pissing all over it.
The art in The MAX run was generally good. Very gritty and dirty. Nothing amazing. But it did what it was supposed to do, and that was sell the characters and the world.
It was never canon; Ellis quite explicitly wrote it as out-of-continuity (hence, how bizarre it is).
However (at least with Machine Man), creators have imported a lot of the characterization into the regular universe
Either way, it's cancellation was further proof to me of what tools Marvel fans are.