What movie, in the history of movie making, let alone Trek movies, has absolutely no plot holes?
And exactly what has that got to do with my post?
Gee, and I thought your point all the way back here, where you entered the thread:
...was to insult the intelligence of American audiences. That is what you were doing there.
Since then, however, you've narrowed it down insulting individual TrekBBS members by stating that if they don't see things the way you (and, supposedly, the author of the review to which you link) do, then they must not possess a functioning brain, after which you have the audacity to claim that you are not insulting them, but rather citing "cold, hard facts" (you really like that phrase, don't you? It sounds kind of
film noir tough guy, or something) which are no more than the
opinions given in the review and in your posts -- i.e., not really facts. That's called circular reasoning, and it's a cheat.
You claim to employ logic:
...but only as a means of implying or inferring that the person to whom your reply is directed is incapable of employing logic -- that they are not in possession of a functioning mind:
I believe I said something about functional mind, but... it doesn't really seem necessary; the post rather speaks for itself.
Again, it's the cold hard facts. We were talking about a review and the points being raised, and I said these points were correct - they are - the points were things that are bad - and bad things diminish a movie. This is not rocket science, this basic elementary.
You got a movie that has no plot holes at all.
Then you have essentially the same movie, but a slight difference in writing and slight changes in plot and there are all types of plot holes now.
Which movie is better; the one with or the one without the plot holes?
The answer should be bloody obvious: the one without.
That's all that was said; that bad things in a movie, diminish a movie. If you can't grasp this simple basic fact, if you can't grasp, that above the movie with the plotholes is the lesser version of the movie, your mind is NOT fully functional. This is not inflammatory, this is simple basic elementary logic.
There is nothing inflammatory or offensive about it.
Simple basic elementary logic? No.
All of this is circular reasoning, sprinkled liberally with insults (some of which I've placed in bold, so you may see which they are.) You can claim opinions are "cold, hard facts" or "cold, hard truth" from now until the cows come home and it will never cause them to become facts or truth, but to insult others because they do not take your word for it
is inflammatory and it
is offensive, no matter how many times you insist that it is not.
You can pretend that you're talking about the review, but again, your first post (which I've quoted above) indicates otherwise, and very few of your subsequent posts have been free of insult and condescension. This is the same pattern you've exhibited in numerous threads in this forum and it needs to stop.
Discuss or don't discuss -- that will be up to you -- but the surly and boorish behavior and the constant stream of insults and insinuations of lesser intelligence toward other posters need to go from your posts in this forum and they need to go now. These may be deemed appropriate where you come from (though I find that difficult to believe) and no one would bat an eye if you were to use them in TNZ, but they are not appropriate here and they will stop.
I'm from the Netherworlds too and I loved the film! 
