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What Happened to Vulcans defences and ships?

So the two of you account for 24 viewings of the film? I've read a lot of posts like these. No wonder it's doing so well.
 
So the two of you account for 24 viewings of the film? I've read a lot of posts like these. No wonder it's doing so well.
The husband went with me, too. :lol: What can I say; it's just fun to get off planet a few times a week.
 
more than likely the vulcan ships (if any) were blown to scrap....possiblly in the outer system When the Narada came through the singularity. :vulcan:
 
Then there's the question of why the Enterprise couldn't warn Earth about the Narada and Pike's captivity, allowing Earth to activate defenses, invalidating Nero's access to Pike's 'command codes' or whatever.
 
At the time of the message. No drilling wasn't being done on Vulcan. All that was taking place, was some unknown lighting effect singular.

The Vulcan themself serve on the same ships that everyone else serve on, and most of them were with the main fleet, with a few ships station near Vulcan.
 
At the time of the message. No drilling wasn't being done on Vulcan. All that was taking place, was some unknown lighting effect singular...
This sounds right and would make the most sense.
 
I mean after Pike was captured and the Enterprise escaped... why was Nero still able to get the drop on Earth? Where was the warning from Enterprise?
 
They probably did send a message to Earth; but with the perimeter security codes -- and the fleet infamously located in the Laurentian system -- it wouldn't much matter.
 
They were gonna do a Vulcan ships vs. Narada sequence but they decided to buy a Super Bowl ad instead.
 
According to ENT, after the Syrrannites took control Vulcan they dissolved the Vulcan High Command. Vulcans returned to the true teaching of Surek, which would have included Surek's strong views toward pacificism. It would have been unlikely that the planet Vulcan would have been armed with weapons or ships.

This was my thought as well. Vulcan pacifism was also mentioned in TNG's "Reunification" (though that was some time later, of course, I think the basic Vulcan philosophy is thought to be the same.)

At the time of the message. No drilling wasn't being done on Vulcan. All that was taking place, was some unknown lighting effect singular.

The Vulcan themself serve on the same ships that everyone else serve on, and most of them were with the main fleet, with a few ships station near Vulcan.

As discussed in another thread, the lightning storm effect was seen on long range sensors near the Neutral Zone, not near Vulcan.
 
According to ENT, after the Syrrannites took control Vulcan they dissolved the Vulcan High Command. Vulcans returned to the true teaching of Surek, which would have included Surek's strong views toward pacificism. It would have been unlikely that the planet Vulcan would have been armed with weapons or ships.

This was my thought as well. Vulcan pacifism was also mentioned in TNG's "Reunification" (though that was some time later, of course, I think the basic Vulcan philosophy is thought to be the same.)

At the time of the message. No drilling wasn't being done on Vulcan. All that was taking place, was some unknown lighting effect singular.

The Vulcan themself serve on the same ships that everyone else serve on, and most of them were with the main fleet, with a few ships station near Vulcan.

As discussed in another thread, the lightning storm effect was seen on long range sensors near the Neutral Zone, not near Vulcan.
That thread was started after the post I've made ten minutes before.
 
As discussed in another thread, the lightning storm effect was seen on long range sensors near the Neutral Zone, not near Vulcan.
It's still not resolved, though. There would be no reason for Vulcan to send a distress call over a lightning storm near the Neutral Zone.

It was said that Vulcan's distress call referred to seismic activity; but for that the drill would have to be underway, and no message would be possible from Vulcan.

That's why I posed that the distress call was sent from space or on a moon base, having detected seismic activity remotely. In fact, I cannot remember exactly when Nero started drilling -- whether it was before the message was sent or after Enterprise arrived.
 
As discussed in another thread, the lightning storm effect was seen on long range sensors near the Neutral Zone, not near Vulcan.
It's still not resolved, though. There would be no reason for Vulcan to send a distress call over a lightning storm near the Neutral Zone.

It was said that Vulcan's distress call referred to seismic activity; but for that the drill would have to be underway, and no message would be possible from Vulcan.

That's why I posed that the distress call was sent from space or on a moon base, having detected seismic activity remotely. In fact, I cannot remember exactly when Nero started drilling -- whether it was before the message was sent or after Enterprise arrived.

I don't think we know exactly whether the message came before or after the drill started, but it was already going when Enterprise showed up, it was one of the first things they mentioned.

Well there's only one thing to do.

Go see it again. :)
 
Well there's only one thing to do.

Go see it again. :)
Yes, indeed; I had decided just that earlier in this thread. :lol: Like I need an excuse, after seeing it eleven times already. I should know this.

(I actually have a soundtrack that I recorded on my cell phone in the IMAX. It's really clear. I was saving it for when the movie leaves town, though.)
 
Didn't Captain Archer have some nice Vulcan ships on his side for a few battles during that series. Those ships were around to fend off any Andorian aggression as well
Certainly they progressed since then.

It seemed like Vulcan was sort of like Switzerland, so there ships would have been for home world defense.
 
As discussed in another thread, the lightning storm effect was seen on long range sensors near the Neutral Zone, not near Vulcan.
It's still not resolved, though. There would be no reason for Vulcan to send a distress call over a lightning storm near the Neutral Zone.

It was said that Vulcan's distress call referred to seismic activity; but for that the drill would have to be underway, and no message would be possible from Vulcan.

That's why I posed that the distress call was sent from space or on a moon base, having detected seismic activity remotely. In fact, I cannot remember exactly when Nero started drilling -- whether it was before the message was sent or after Enterprise arrived.

I don't think we know exactly whether the message came before or after the drill started, but it was already going when Enterprise showed up, it was one of the first things they mentioned.

Well there's only one thing to do.

Go see it again. :)
The Vulcan High Command had pick up a anomaly near the neutral zone, that is causing seismic activity on Vulcan. The anomaly appears to be a lightning storm in space. This message was sent out before any drilling started.
 
I too was bugged by how unprotected Earth was when Nero showed up. Nobody even tries to stop him; all we see is groups of Starfleet cadets running out of the buildings to stare up google-eyed as Nero attempts to destroy their world.

Where's the Homeland Security? Don't tell me the govt. would be dumb enough to send ALL of Starfleet to the Laurentian system, thus leaving it totally unprotected? Does Earth have no self-defense at all? I loved the movie, but had a tough time buying that some goon could show up and start destroying the world and no country on the planet would even attempt to stop him...
 
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