Exactly, this stuff isn't hardto figure out. The haters just gotta nitpick at all this stupid stuff.
How can one romulan mining ship destroy the federation armada?
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Exactly, this stuff isn't hardto figure out. The haters just gotta nitpick at all this stupid stuff.
If a group of Somalian pirates found themselves thrown back in time 200 years im pretty sure they'd be able to carve out a small empire, 18th century navy ships would be fucked if they had an RPG fired at them. F*ck Borg tech, the story doesn't need it.
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Well since that comic is not a FILM, I will stick to the whole Romulan 24th century weapons kick 23rd century skin shields
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WHY Couldn't JJA put this in the movie ala ''Flashbacks''?
WHY Couldn't JJA put this in the movie ala ''Flashbacks''?
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Because we don't need BORG tech in a movie to appeal to the masses, seriouslt BORG in TOS movie
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The Narada doesn't need Borg tech to beat 23rd century Federation ships ... ships that are over century behind in technology by comparison.
The Narada was obviously damaged from the Kelvin colliding with it.
25 years later, Nero attacks an unprepared fleet of SF ships (which likely went in with shields down).
Given the fact that Narada was a mining ship of the late 24th century ... it's perfectly reasonable it will be armed with heavy missiles in order to crack really tough materials.
They will be late 24th century technology and the Narada will have A LOT in supply ... more than enough to fire in all directions at once and destroys fleets of ships that are effectively antiquated buckets in comparison (remember that Nero's ship wasn't truly damaged until falling into the black hole that was created from colliding with the Jellyfish).
Countdown is not canon ... and the movie stands even without it.
The Narada was obviously damaged from the Kelvin colliding with it.
25 years later, Nero attacks an unprepared fleet of SF ships (which likely went in with shields down).
Given the fact that Narada was a mining ship of the late 24th century ... it's perfectly reasonable it will be armed with heavy missiles in order to crack really tough materials.
They will be late 24th century technology and the Narada will have A LOT in supply ... more than enough to fire in all directions at once and destroys fleets of ships that are effectively antiquated buckets in comparison (remember that Nero's ship wasn't truly damaged until falling into the black hole that was created from colliding with the Jellyfish).
Countdown is not canon ... and the movie stands even without it.
i liked what TheMurph said.
that the narada when it first came out of the singularity wasnt in the same shape to fight as it later would be.
that the crew would still be disoriented and very possibly wouldnt have access to all their weaponry or even possible warp engines.
it also helps to explain how nero captured spock prime.
that the narada when it first came out of the singularity wasnt in the same shape to fight as it later would be.
that the crew would still be disoriented and very possibly wouldnt have access to all their weaponry or even possible warp engines.
it also helps to explain how nero captured spock prime.
If you guys remember even in TNG, the D'eridex Warbirds were supposed to be almost twice the size of a Galaxy Class starship, and everytime the Romulans threatened to attack, Picard and the crew would start crapping their pants.
In fact, for a proper stalemate to be played out, the Enterprise had to request the help of 3 Klingon warbirds against 2 d'eridex class warbirds.
And this is technology of the 24th century for both races.
Imagine a ship from 150 years in the future, it would be immensely powerful.
In fact, for a proper stalemate to be played out, the Enterprise had to request the help of 3 Klingon warbirds against 2 d'eridex class warbirds.
And this is technology of the 24th century for both races.
Imagine a ship from 150 years in the future, it would be immensely powerful.
And since it was damaged at that point that may be how the klingons captured Nero, hopefully we will find out when the DVD somes out and we can see those scenes.
So only the Borg used green lights and computer screens? Nobody else in the universe could possibly use green lights?
Just saw this ep today, in fact (STNG:The Defector). Satisfying scene.
That Tomalak -- what a character.
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In your eagerness to lay some smug on the OP, I suspect you have overlooked some important elements of his post. I'll convert your off-topic images to links to make them less intrusive, 'K?
Technology is not linnear. You can't compare a ship from 1900 and a ship from 2000 to 23 and 24th century. Their tech didn't seem to advance too much. There must have been massive refitting done on that vessel
I can buy the fact that the ship was heavily outfitted with Romulan modified Borg technology. There are just certain areas about the ship that reminds me of a borg ship. First of all is the vast openness of the interior, the color scheme of the whole ship not and it looks like a freaking mesh of parts. There is no logic behind the idea that a simple Romulan mining ship would be equipped to look like this or be able to what it did in this movie, future or past.
You have to keep in mind that numerous situations happened between TNG and VOY for example that prompted more advanced technologies in the late 24th century and post Nemesis era.
For one thing: Borg incursions.
For the second: The Dominion War.
Heck, even in Yesterday's Enterprise it was implied that if the 'D' outfitted the 'C' with their own more advanced technology, they would have won against 3 Romulan Warbirds of that time.
Also ... Voyager brought back technologies from 26 years into the future.
Even in the future, those anti-Borg techs had a devastating effect on the attacking ships (such as the Klingons for example that could not penetrate the deployed hull armor on Janeway's shuttle).
Transphasic torpedoes had a crippling blow on a cube (1 or 2 torpedoes) which had most likely far larger yields compared to type 6 photons Voyager had).
If the Feds alone were able to come up with that, the Remans (a slave species of the Romulans) created the Scimitar, which had much more powerful weapons, shields and an improved cloack which did not leave off any trail.
Nero's mining ship was a very large one, and it had to have weapon based systems to crack very hard materials in some situations (plus given it's size, they'd have those missiles in abundance which would still be late 24th century tech), but it still suffered damage when under dirrect assault even from century outdated weapons because it was still a mining ship and not a warship (which explains the damage it took from the Kelvin ramming into it and preventing Nero from destroying the shuttles).
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Tell you what, i'll get a hold of one of the worlds biggest nukes and head back in time 150 years and see how well the armies of the day hold up to a nuclear strike.
The fact the Nerada was Romulan is reason enough for it to be heavily armed. The other fact that it was built to mine the very rare and precious isotope of Decalithium is also reason enough for the ship to have heavy defences and thus powerful weapons.
I can't believe we've got another thread on this issue because it's common sense. My sig was made for moments like these.
The fact the Nerada was Romulan is reason enough for it to be heavily armed. The other fact that it was built to mine the very rare and precious isotope of Decalithium is also reason enough for the ship to have heavy defences and thus powerful weapons.
I can't believe we've got another thread on this issue because it's common sense. My sig was made for moments like these.
What? The most straight forward explanation regarding the Narada on why it looks so different compared to ANY ship we've seen in Star Trek, Romulan or otherwise, is explained in Star Trek Countdown. It was modified with Romulan Influenced Borg technology that for all intents and purposes turned the ship into a massive mesh of parts that have no clear design guidance.
^^^ Decalithium? Wait, what?
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