He was so far from home by this point. That's like saying a flying saucer full of aliens pick you up, experiment on you on their planet in another galaxy, then return you to some random spot in the Milky Way and say you belong there. It may have been the Delta Quadrant, but how did he belong in that area an more than he belonged in Federation space?
Why did they have neelix leave?
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I wonder if it would have changed his mind if he knew he gave up only three weeks from Earth?
I believe one of the problems with forming a defence force against pirates was that their ships had been cannibalized to create their colony.
Neelix wouldn't be all in until he handed over his ship for spare parts and building materials.
How long would he be able to get away with saying "I'm still considering it?"
After all breaking his ship down ios basically castration.
I think after all, the Talaxians were really all more of those salt eating changeling from TOS the man Trap, and once Voyager was out of a line of sight they ate him.
Hells, they could have replaced half the crew and no one would have noticed because every one is just part of a wonderfully close knit family.
I believe one of the problems with forming a defence force against pirates was that their ships had been cannibalized to create their colony.
Neelix wouldn't be all in until he handed over his ship for spare parts and building materials.
How long would he be able to get away with saying "I'm still considering it?"
After all breaking his ship down ios basically castration.
I think after all, the Talaxians were really all more of those salt eating changeling from TOS the man Trap, and once Voyager was out of a line of sight they ate him.
Hells, they could have replaced half the crew and no one would have noticed because every one is just part of a wonderfully close knit family.
Don't go mistaking Coulrophobia with folliclophellia.
To the tune of "Don't go breaking my heart" by Keekee Dee by the way. 
Extra toes.
Gotta wonder about the FO when you get a troupe of Tallaxians together.
Extra toes.
Gotta wonder about the FO when you get a troupe of Tallaxians together.
Being in unfamiliar territory with people you know vs. being in unfamiliar terroritory with no one you know. I'd take the former.
But he knew the voyager people for about seven years? That would soon pass with his new lover and his mom.
Kes left and then 5 years later he bonked a Klingon.
Some suggest he didn't have a sexual relationship with Kes.
Which might explain his intense anger at TOM in Paturation, that Tom was planning a sexual relationship he himself wasn't willing to follow through with for one reason or another.
Crude equals honesty: No one on that ship was opening their legs to him.
He had to go.
Some suggest he didn't have a sexual relationship with Kes.
Which might explain his intense anger at TOM in Paturation, that Tom was planning a sexual relationship he himself wasn't willing to follow through with for one reason or another.
Crude equals honesty: No one on that ship was opening their legs to him.
He had to go.
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CAN'T SLEEP, NEELIX WILL EAT ME
CAN'T SLEEP, NEELIX WILL EAT ME
CAN'T SLEEP, NEELIX WILL EAT ME
CAN'T SLEEP, NEELIX WILL EAT ME
CAN'T SLEEP, NEELIX WILL EAT ME
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CAN'T SLEEP, NEELIX WILL EAT ME
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Spam based on dumb t-shirts not withstanding, I liked Neelix. I was glad to see him get a happy ending, even if I can't remember any of the episode BUT the ending because I wasn't interested. I'd call it a happy ending, anyway. I certainly wouldn't say Neelix got dumped, especially since he was the only character with an episode dedicated to his homecoming, and the sendoff they wrote for him (having everyone on the ship line up outside your door to salute you and send you off is an honor. Having Tuvok finally acknowledge your friendship and dance a little jig for you is a triple honor). It felt right.
Although I did find it rather convenient that his exit happened right before the finale. I didn't care about there being Talaxians this far out, though. Neelix was a nomad, and these people weren't exactly staying at home either. I have no problem with random Talaxians being spread throughout the quadrant. They just all left their home planet years ago in different directions.
I hated to see him go, but I agree with the above. Neelix gets the best of both worlds in my book, and Ambassadorship and a woman. I'm sure with the Midas array he'll be able to keep in touch with not only the Federation Council but also all his friends.
He was Sacajawea.
First off he would have got so much tail.
Second, who do you think is going to lead the mission back there to cement all the positive relationships Janeway began?
First off he would have got so much tail.
Second, who do you think is going to lead the mission back there to cement all the positive relationships Janeway began?
Neelix met fellow Talaxians, fell in love with a Talaxian female and also formed an emotional bond with her son. And he's still not allowed to stay behind and form a new life with a possible new family? What the hell?
The thing with Neelix leaving is that they basically addressed the fact (backhandedly) in "The Expanse" (or whichever episode it was where Neelix realized he'd become useless as a guide) that Neelix had chosen to go with them despite knowing that he'd never go home again. Indeed, his home was pretty bleak.
Then all of a sudden, here's a Talaxian colony! With kids! And Neelix has a Talaxian home! And this is more of a home and more of a family than Voyager? The people who brought him back to life? Who spared him from a life of Tuvix?
That was ridiculously convenient.
Anything short of letting him go home with Voyager was a cop-out. In fact, "Homestead" should have been more about the fact that Voyager was his home now.
Man, you really are a Mustang guy too aren't ya, you pretty much wrote what I was thinking myself lol.
I'm not sure if I misinterpreted the whole point of the character in Voyager, but it seems to me that the whole point of Neelix was to give us a character that represented the "little guy" who's opressed by the evil strong entities, and then another set of big strong "good" guys come in and save his ass, and he ends up eternally grateful to them.
The idea works on a certain psychological level (our need to protect the little guy who is innocent). Now Voyager didn't exactly implement his character the way it should have been done:
- For one, they made the character way too cheery. When we have episodes about him, we see actually that he is putting a front and inside there is a lot of trauma he is trying to hide. This makes the whole cheery aspect of the character very annoying.
- Bringing in a GF who is like 100 years younger than you is just creepy. They didn't need to do that at all. If they wanted the character to have a GF, she should have been Talaxian as well.
Even with these missteps, I still somewhat liked the character. Remember that episode where they encounter the creature that "gives them what they want" in their minds so it could eat them?
Everyone thinks they found a wormhole and are back on Earth, and even Neelix was happy and was even shaking hands with the Starfleet Admirals. This was clearly a sign that Neelix felt accepted with his new human family. In turn his new human family liked and respected him, and went out of their way several times to defend them.
So when he left his new family to "be with the girl" I felt it was contrary to what they had been showing us on screen for the past few years. I was looking foward to seeing Neelix shake hands with Starfleet Admirals for real.
Like someone above said, the entire bunch of Talaxians should have gotten out of that damn rock and followed Voyager home with Janeway and Crew.
The Federation would have probably been ecxtatic to welcome them as new members and even found a suitable planet for them to live on.
I wonder what the Talaxian colony would have thought about becoming stronger faster, long lived and telepathic? These people ran from a fight because they were weak (civilians? Refugees? it wasn't their job to fight.) and had to let their homeworld fall and it's people be... Jetrel seemed like after the war everything was hunky dory and the Talaxians were not a slave race subservient to his lot, but maybe you needed paperwork to prove slave status and that's the difference from not being on, and being on the homeworld herded into pens when the new masters arrived after the talaxian leadership capitulated? Or were they all kicked off Talax? What's the point in invading if you have to deal with coexistence which'll leave you on an even political level heading in a generation or two? Lets her it for taxation without representation!
If these beat down refugees found out about the hybridization and (29th century) Borg upgrades which would turn them all into super soldiers, it could be reason enough to go home and "assimilate" as many species on the way home to become as "powerful" as need to be to single-handedly tackle armies and space navies... Consider if they were to murder the intellect of the body they were intent on hybridizing with, that despite the physical upgrades, the consciousness would remain entirely Talaxian... As if they wouldn't head straight for ocampa to become powerful Space Gods? Why didn't the Borg do that also for that matter? They got into Voyagers library many times enough to know all about the butterflies those ocampa could be after those caterpillars received a mild amount of pushing.
but they borg remained corporal soul dead acting out an eating disorder claiming that they're an inch from true happiness no matter how may ceturies pass, the talaxians rotted in a rock while the Ocampans starved inside a box.
Imagine the final if the Borg came and begged janeway for aid in the spirit of their former alliance because this new grand enemy who will destroy everyone, who turns out to be Neelix and his colony of simple mining folkes, was destroying these metal buggers well with ocampan superpowers, counterprogramed 29th century nanoprobes, molecularly (unassimilatable) dense 8472 biology and keeping after them through the wiliest of space chases with cunning Hirogen tracking skills.
Out Borg the Borg.
of course where would it stop?
Janeway infecting them with the phage?
If these beat down refugees found out about the hybridization and (29th century) Borg upgrades which would turn them all into super soldiers, it could be reason enough to go home and "assimilate" as many species on the way home to become as "powerful" as need to be to single-handedly tackle armies and space navies... Consider if they were to murder the intellect of the body they were intent on hybridizing with, that despite the physical upgrades, the consciousness would remain entirely Talaxian... As if they wouldn't head straight for ocampa to become powerful Space Gods? Why didn't the Borg do that also for that matter? They got into Voyagers library many times enough to know all about the butterflies those ocampa could be after those caterpillars received a mild amount of pushing.
but they borg remained corporal soul dead acting out an eating disorder claiming that they're an inch from true happiness no matter how may ceturies pass, the talaxians rotted in a rock while the Ocampans starved inside a box.
Imagine the final if the Borg came and begged janeway for aid in the spirit of their former alliance because this new grand enemy who will destroy everyone, who turns out to be Neelix and his colony of simple mining folkes, was destroying these metal buggers well with ocampan superpowers, counterprogramed 29th century nanoprobes, molecularly (unassimilatable) dense 8472 biology and keeping after them through the wiliest of space chases with cunning Hirogen tracking skills.
Out Borg the Borg.
of course where would it stop?
Janeway infecting them with the phage?
Neelix should have stayed on the ship and in the series.
Dumping him the way they did was as silly as if those in charge of TOS should have created a situation in which Scotty should have abandoned the Enterprise, settled on a small island outside the Scottish coast and started to meditate.
Dumping him the way they did was as silly as if those in charge of TOS should have created a situation in which Scotty should have abandoned the Enterprise, settled on a small island outside the Scottish coast and started to meditate.
By meditate you mean "drink till he's blind" right?
I think the problem is in the fact that Neelix discovered this wonderful new love life, family, home, and job opportunity in one episode. If it had been a storyline where Voyager had encountered Dexa and her people over the course of the season and Neelix had gradually grown to love her and her people a great deal, THEN decided he loved them too much to continue on past with Voyager, it would have made sense.
I just can't invest myself emotionally in a relationship that develops entirely in one episode. Not after nearly seven years of other emotional stack in another direction.
We know Neelix was emotionally rash at times. I just can't help but think that eventually the novelty would wear off and he'd miss his old family...halfway across the galaxy again. Oops.
I just can't invest myself emotionally in a relationship that develops entirely in one episode. Not after nearly seven years of other emotional stack in another direction.
We know Neelix was emotionally rash at times. I just can't help but think that eventually the novelty would wear off and he'd miss his old family...halfway across the galaxy again. Oops.
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