Terminator: Salvation Discuss/Grade <Spoilers>
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No official word, I don't think. Tentatively I think another film has been greenlit but with the lackluster box office returns of this film, WB might be reconsidering that choice right now.
I think they'll do another one but who knows. As for the "disappointing" box office take...is that really a surprise?
The ideal time to have done a sequel to Terminator 2 would have been about three years later. That's when the franchise was at its hottest. Now, it worked out much better for Cameron that he didn't do it because he ended up doing True Lies and then he won a couple of Oscars for directing the biggest box office hit of all-time.
Anyway, by the time they finally made Terminator 3, it was the year 2003. 12 years had passed since T2 was released. It came back without Cameron and without Linda Hamilton. At this point, Arnold was getting older and hadn't had a box office hit in almost a decade. They simply waited too long to make a sequel. They're never going to be able to recapture what they had with Terminator 2, which is now an 18-year-old film.
The ideal time to have done a sequel to Terminator 2 would have been about three years later. That's when the franchise was at its hottest. Now, it worked out much better for Cameron that he didn't do it because he ended up doing True Lies and then he won a couple of Oscars for directing the biggest box office hit of all-time.
Anyway, by the time they finally made Terminator 3, it was the year 2003. 12 years had passed since T2 was released. It came back without Cameron and without Linda Hamilton. At this point, Arnold was getting older and hadn't had a box office hit in almost a decade. They simply waited too long to make a sequel. They're never going to be able to recapture what they had with Terminator 2, which is now an 18-year-old film.
I remember a certain couple of other 40 and 30 year old franchises that had the same criticisms.
It is not about timing but about what product has been placed before the audience. The fact that it made at least 40 mil in opening weekend shows people did turn up, but didn't turn up repeatedly. The audiences are technically smarter now but they also want a fast paced engaging story in their movies. There are hundreds of other options for entertainment for the population, the trick is to make them feel their movie going experience was worth the wait and their buck.That's why Star Trek succeeded where T-4 flopped, though T-4 had a relatively 'bigger named' cast than Trek did. Trek was cool, interesting... grabs your attention and doesn't let go. T-4 was.. bland and boring. T-4 is a pretty big 'missed by a mile' property now. Like Superman Returns and Spiderman-3 before it, this movie will be derided for years to come. And rightfully so.
From what I've been hearing it's still on. They haven't cancelled it yet and it looks like MGM is still going to move to buy the distribution rights, but the last part remains unconfirmed.
I remember a certain couple of other 40 and 30 year old franchises that had the same criticisms.
That's why Star Trek succeeded where T-4 flopped, though T-4 had a relatively 'bigger named' cast than Trek did. Trek was cool, interesting... grabs your attention and doesn't let go. T-4 was.. bland and boring. T-4 is a pretty big 'missed by a mile' property now. Like Superman Returns and Spiderman-3 before it, this movie will be derided for years to come. And rightfully so.
Well, SR is ridiculed by many, but I thoroughly enjoyed that movie. T4 was a disappointment to me. And I don't think it sucked. But I want more out of a Terminator film than "it didn't suck".
Budgets are out of control. Just like Prince Caspian had a $200m budget and Walden Media was told by Fox to get Dawn Treader's down. I could see a similar scenario with Terminator 5.
I think it will have to be between $125m-$150m. Granted, if may be more of a blessing if T5 had a smaller budget, a smaller budget equals less special effects and maybe more focus on character moments. Although in all honesty, I don't see where $200m went in TS. I mean the effects were good but they weren't earth shattering. I mean look at the original transformers that movie I believe cost about $125m and one could argue that its effects were as good if not better than TS.
Someone help me see where the money went in TS.
Someone help me see where the money went in TS.
The budget will be $10 million dollars, and the film will consist of Summer Glau bashing robot figurines together and making funny faces.
^ They did. They had full size mototerminators, T-1s, T-600s, T-700s, and T-800s during the filming and there were multiple copies of each (save the T-800 from what I read). Also almost every explosion you see in the film is real. Sam Worthington said that it got a little out of hand and during one of the scenes - presumably when they're trying to escape from the Resistance Base) he and Moon Bloodgood were almost caught on fire.
Probably had to pay Bale $175 million since he's a "big star" now.
Termimator Salvation had a lot of practical effects. I read somewhere ... I believe it was Steven Spielberg who said it -- that producing movies with practical effects is becoming costlier to produce than movies with CGI or the effects mostly digitized. I think this was during his restoration of Lawrence of Arabia where he said to produce that movie today, authentically and realistically creating those battles and sandstorms using real tools, would cost tenfold more than it would be to digitally create it.
Technology has come so far that it's cheaper to create an image digitally than it would be to create it practically. That's why films such as The Dark Knight cost upwards of $200 million and films like Transformers don't.
Technology has come so far that it's cheaper to create an image digitally than it would be to create it practically. That's why films such as The Dark Knight cost upwards of $200 million and films like Transformers don't.
The T-700 was seen only once in the film at the end. It peers at the camera after it misses John Connor boarding the Transport.
Exactly. I recently read in a behind the scenes book that they put together the price for a shot for shot remake of the original terminator during the filming of Salvation. The original terminator (with a budget of around 6.4 million in 1984 - roughly $13,135,091.43 today) would have cost them nearly 95 million today to do just the effects.
