One little question..

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I have now seen STXI four times!! <---

And still I can't see where that little metal model of the Kelvin that Kirk turns over in his hand after Pike leaves him comes from. Does Pike drop it on the table in front of him or.. (and I think this is the best answer) does Kirk take it out of his pocket? Taking it from his pocket would be a wonderful gesture because it means he carries a small toy model of his father's ship around with him, a past he never lets go of despite being so flippant with Pike about it. The model even appears to be broken, missing a nacelle, so we can assume this is something Kirk has had since childhood. Very poignant.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

It was a salt-shaker on the table in the bar. When he turns it over you can see the little holes in the front of the saucer for the salt to come out.


I'll see if I can find the post at TrekMovie where Orci talks about it.

[edit] Here it is. Scroll down to the replies:

#16 boborci: “Shortly after the heroic death of George Kirk, the Iowa shipyards were erected by Starfleet to honor and commemorate the sacrifice. Hence, the Kelvin salt shaker in the diner, etc…”
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[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

It was a salt-shaker on the table in the bar. When he turns it over you can see the little holes in the front of the saucer for the salt to come out.

[edit] I'll see if I can find the post at TrekMovie where Orci talks about it.

Here it is:

#16 boborci: “Shortly after the heroic death of George Kirk, the Iowa shipyards were erected by Starfleet to honor and commemorate the sacrifice. Hence, the Kelvin salt shaker in the diner, etc…”
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Hmm...Okay that is not as poignant as MY story, lol, but it is still a great moment. Thanks for that answer!

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Hmm...Okay that is not as poignant as MY story, lol, but it is still a great moment. Thanks for that answer!

Well, it is kind of tragic in that Kirk has likely been hanging around Riverside his entire life near a shipyard and in a bar dedicated to his father to feel some small bit of connection to him.

 

[Kpnuts]

I can't see how that ship was supposed to be the Kelvin. It had this strange module thing at the back of the saucer rather than an engine/sec hull!

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Hmm...Okay that is not as poignant as MY story, lol, but it is still a great moment. Thanks for that answer!

Well, it is kind of tragic in that Kirk has likely been hanging around Riverside his entire life near a shipyard and in a bar dedicated to his father to feel some small bit of connection to him.

You're right, it is tragic. A few more years and he would have been an embarrassing joke, probably got by with his peers on brashness up to that point.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I can't see how that ship was supposed to be the Kelvin. It had this strange module thing at the back of the saucer rather than an engine/sec hull!

It's missing the engine pod when Kirk flips it over, and there's a peg where it was supposed to attach. But it's pretty clearly the Kelvin (according to Orci), or a similar ship.

 

[Kpnuts]

I can't see how that ship was supposed to be the Kelvin. It had this strange module thing at the back of the saucer rather than an engine/sec hull!

It's missing the engine pod when Kirk flips it over, and there's a peg where it was supposed to attach. But it's pretty clearly the Kelvin (according to Orci), or a similar ship.

Strange though, you'd think they'd just make it look like the Kelvin. I just assumed it was another similar class of ship.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I guess having the salt-shaker be broken symbolizes the broken ship, as well as Kirk's inner struggle to fix his own broken life.

 

[Green Shirt]

I guess having the salt-shaker be broken symbolizes the broken ship, as well as Kirk's inner struggle to fix his own broken life.

And the salt pouring out of the shaker symbolizes -- what?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I guess having the salt-shaker be broken symbolizes the broken ship, as well as Kirk's inner struggle to fix his own broken life.

And the salt pouring out of the shaker symbolizes -- what?

That the only one pouring salt in his wounds was himself.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I guess having the salt-shaker be broken symbolizes the broken ship, as well as Kirk's inner struggle to fix his own broken life.

And the salt pouring out of the shaker symbolizes -- what?

Each little grain symbolizes a redshirt flying away into the vacuum of space through a hull breech.

 

[Arlo]

It's a frakking salt shaker. You make design concessions for the utility of the object.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

It's a frakking salt shaker. You make design concessions for the utility of the object.

I was joking about the symbolism of the broken salt-shaker. Hence the wink smiley.

 

[Franklin]

Nothing honors the memory of a fallen hero like a salt shaker.

The shaker was probably damaged in the fight.

It is tragic that Kirk would live in that area and not feel some connection to his father. Could be he felt he could never be that way. Make that commitment. Then, make that sacrifice. He couldn't be the man his dad was. It's also implied that his mother must've travelled a lot. Or, I'd have thought she'd have the "Pike talk" with Kirk herself long ago. Settle the boy down.
In the other timeline, it was the example Kirk's dad set for him while living that inspired Kirk to enter Starfleet. So obviously, there was inspiration and encouragement. In the new timeline, no encouragement. Only salt shakers.

 

[Borgminister]

Wasted away again in margaritaville...

 

[Franklin]

Wasted away again in margaritaville...

Searching for my lost shaker of salt. Oh! There it is.

 

[Borgminister]

Wasted away again in margaritaville...

Searching for my lost shaker of salt. Oh! There it is.

Painful to think about just how much money Buffet's made off that one song and judicious career and money management...

 

[Franklin]

Wasted away again in margaritaville...

Searching for my lost shaker of salt. Oh! There it is.

Painful to think about just how much money Buffet's made off that one song and judicious career and money management...

Well, a margarita with a cheeseburger. There's a restaurant in Charlottesville, VA called Cheeseburger in Paradise. Apparently part of a new chain of restaurants that Buffet at least sold his name to and allowed them to theme it after him.

Damn blended margaritas!

 

[Jeri]

Kirk was a boy-named-Sue living there; every day a reminder of his absent dad and hi-jacked life. No wonder he was fighting all the time. The salt shaker was like an hourglass.

Damn blended margaritas!

Oxymoron.