24: D7: 6:00AM - 8:00AM. Discussion and Spoilers. SEASON FINALE!
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Joe Flanigan as the chief antagonist next season would RAWK!
Even if Jack kills him in the final ep.And since it's probably the last season, who knows who kills whom in the final ep...
OMIGOD! That's why the kept Tony alive - he'll kill Jack!
Or else Kim will do something spectacularly stupid and kill Jack by accident.
Pfft. Jack can shake that off with half a child's chewable tylenol and a single, literal, wink of sleep.
Joe Flanigan as the chief antagonist next season would RAWK!
Flanigan's not worthy of that. He'd play a flunky who gets shot in the first 10 minutes of day one.
RobertScorpio
Pariah
I just watched "Taken," and now I'm thinking -- Oh my god! Liam Neeson killed Jonas Hodges!!!
VERY funny..wasn't that weird? And on another topic? they kept showing scenes to some new movie with Denzle and Travolta, and the setup of the movie looks like the same idea 24 did with the muslim kid Tony was trying to frame a couple weeks ago on...ta-da...a subway...
24, leading the way!!!
Rob
Got the 24 Season 7 DVD today.
I read that they casted someone to play the role of the the new Chief of Staff. Can't remember the name of the actor or the name of the new character but it's not Rick Berman.
So much for Ethan being there for President Taylor. She HAS lost everyone.
I read that they casted someone to play the role of the the new Chief of Staff. Can't remember the name of the actor or the name of the new character but it's not Rick Berman.
So much for Ethan being there for President Taylor. She HAS lost everyone.
I just watched "Taken," and now I'm thinking -- Oh my god! Liam Neeson killed Jonas Hodges!!!
VERY funny..wasn't that weird? And on another topic? they kept showing scenes to some new movie with Denzle and Travolta, and the setup of the movie looks like the same idea 24 did with the muslim kid Tony was trying to frame a couple weeks ago on...ta-da...a subway...
24, leading the way!!!
Rob
The new Denzel / Travolta movie is a remake of a Walter Matthau / Robert Shaw film.
^ Actually this is the third time they've done The Taking Of Pelham One Two Three. Although I think the second version was made for TV.
As for this show: I've always thought 24 should do a season where there are NO villains.
How would this work, you may ask? Simple: A natural disaster of some kind.
Tornado, hurricane, earthquake, disease outbreak (naturally occurring, not terrorism-related), whatever. How would Jack deal with this? What would he do to assist in the rescue and recovery?
This show has way too many villains. They could do with a bit of a break. IMHO, having a season of this show that had no bad guys whatsoever, would be an interesting touch.
As for this show: I've always thought 24 should do a season where there are NO villains.
How would this work, you may ask? Simple: A natural disaster of some kind.
Tornado, hurricane, earthquake, disease outbreak (naturally occurring, not terrorism-related), whatever. How would Jack deal with this? What would he do to assist in the rescue and recovery?
This show has way too many villains. They could do with a bit of a break. IMHO, having a season of this show that had no bad guys whatsoever, would be an interesting touch.
Natural disasters always create villains though -- of the robber/looter/vandal variety.
What 24 needs is a season without the President. Once David Palmer was gone there was no connection between Jack and the President. The White House subplots only serve to bring the show to a grinding halt.
How about a format change? 24-hour pizza parlor?
"Damnit! We don't have time to add any anchovies! There's only 8 minutes left to deliver the pizza or else it's free!"
What 24 needs is a season without the President. Once David Palmer was gone there was no connection between Jack and the President. The White House subplots only serve to bring the show to a grinding halt.
How about a format change? 24-hour pizza parlor?
"Damnit! We don't have time to add any anchovies! There's only 8 minutes left to deliver the pizza or else it's free!"
doubleohfive
Fleet Admiral
I both loved and hated this finale.
People who know me know that I have always been wary about how this show in particular uses and portrays Arabs and Muslims. For the first time, I was genuinely pleased *and* surprised (though that's probably more due to the fact that I'd almost given up any sliver of hope that the show wouldn't stereotype) with the scene with Jack and the Muslim man in the hospital. For all the things Jack's done, been through, and for all the big deal the FBI characters had made about his track record, it was nice to see him really reach out and make peace with himself over it all, and the way they did it was beautiful.
Unfortunately, this was about the maximum of ballsy-ness the show gave us. The whole season I was waiting for two things: The final super real absolute revelation that yes, Jack, you dipshit, Tony is the big bad and 2) we were going to get a major face-off at the end of Hour 24.
Well, we got one of those things. And it was plainly obvious back when Tony warned jack about the impending attack on the White House. Each week was the same for me -- has Jack figured out Tony is the bad guy yet? if anything its insulting that after Bill had to go and off himself Jack still didn't really put it together. So yeah, they took way too long with that, distracting us all season with the Juma plot, the Jonas stuff, and the itty bitty plot point about the Vice-President... did that ever end up going anywhere?
I did like that Taylor turned her daughter in. Through everything, I found myself liking the President very much. I wanted to like the Chloe/Janis scene at the end too, but it just seemed too much of a wink at everyone watching, as if the writers wanted to make sure that we the viewers knew that *they* knew these two characters were mirrors of each other. Thanks for the heads up! Further, while I'm glad my hometown got repped throughout the "day," everything that happened during Day 7 was just way too convoluted. There was so much that had to happen in a certain way for Tony to get to his endgame that it reeked of more Day 4 stupidity.
Finally, as I alluded to earlier I was very disappointed with the climax between Jack and Tony. I was waiting for a big confrontation and while I'm glad it didn't end up being some cliche'd one on one, there should have been more. Maybe Jack after everything realizes he can't kill Tony because Jack needs to take a step in reverse back toward his humanity. Maybe Renee kills him instead, because she's taking a step away from hers. I don't know... it just seemed really like the whole season was tackling the issue of torture and Jack's m.o. and there wasn't any real payoff to the characters moralizing over it within the context of what was going on and happening to them. Tony can go all Frank Castle and become a cold-blooded murderer... and he certainly has a good motivation for it, but it was something that probably would have served the character and the story infinitely better had it been introduced much earlier, especially if there had been a scene where Kim finally reveals to Jack that Teri was pregnant when she was murdered, giving Jack even more in common withTony.
Three years ago, when they "killed" Tony, Top41 posted an article from another website all about Tony and Jack and how they are mirrors of each other. Jack being the hardline extreme and Tony being the balanced center. Jack being able to do whatever it took to save the day, Tony being just as capable but always choosing to preserve his humanity. They took that morality away from Tony this season and in addition to giving him a shitty faux-"badass" haircut, really botched up one of their best characters.
Hopefully though there will be some kind of followup now that Tony's at least still alive but man... I long for Tony and Jack from way back in Day 2.
People who know me know that I have always been wary about how this show in particular uses and portrays Arabs and Muslims. For the first time, I was genuinely pleased *and* surprised (though that's probably more due to the fact that I'd almost given up any sliver of hope that the show wouldn't stereotype) with the scene with Jack and the Muslim man in the hospital. For all the things Jack's done, been through, and for all the big deal the FBI characters had made about his track record, it was nice to see him really reach out and make peace with himself over it all, and the way they did it was beautiful.
Unfortunately, this was about the maximum of ballsy-ness the show gave us. The whole season I was waiting for two things: The final super real absolute revelation that yes, Jack, you dipshit, Tony is the big bad and 2) we were going to get a major face-off at the end of Hour 24.
Well, we got one of those things. And it was plainly obvious back when Tony warned jack about the impending attack on the White House. Each week was the same for me -- has Jack figured out Tony is the bad guy yet? if anything its insulting that after Bill had to go and off himself Jack still didn't really put it together. So yeah, they took way too long with that, distracting us all season with the Juma plot, the Jonas stuff, and the itty bitty plot point about the Vice-President... did that ever end up going anywhere?
I did like that Taylor turned her daughter in. Through everything, I found myself liking the President very much. I wanted to like the Chloe/Janis scene at the end too, but it just seemed too much of a wink at everyone watching, as if the writers wanted to make sure that we the viewers knew that *they* knew these two characters were mirrors of each other. Thanks for the heads up! Further, while I'm glad my hometown got repped throughout the "day," everything that happened during Day 7 was just way too convoluted. There was so much that had to happen in a certain way for Tony to get to his endgame that it reeked of more Day 4 stupidity.
Finally, as I alluded to earlier I was very disappointed with the climax between Jack and Tony. I was waiting for a big confrontation and while I'm glad it didn't end up being some cliche'd one on one, there should have been more. Maybe Jack after everything realizes he can't kill Tony because Jack needs to take a step in reverse back toward his humanity. Maybe Renee kills him instead, because she's taking a step away from hers. I don't know... it just seemed really like the whole season was tackling the issue of torture and Jack's m.o. and there wasn't any real payoff to the characters moralizing over it within the context of what was going on and happening to them. Tony can go all Frank Castle and become a cold-blooded murderer... and he certainly has a good motivation for it, but it was something that probably would have served the character and the story infinitely better had it been introduced much earlier, especially if there had been a scene where Kim finally reveals to Jack that Teri was pregnant when she was murdered, giving Jack even more in common withTony.
Three years ago, when they "killed" Tony, Top41 posted an article from another website all about Tony and Jack and how they are mirrors of each other. Jack being the hardline extreme and Tony being the balanced center. Jack being able to do whatever it took to save the day, Tony being just as capable but always choosing to preserve his humanity. They took that morality away from Tony this season and in addition to giving him a shitty faux-"badass" haircut, really botched up one of their best characters.
Hopefully though there will be some kind of followup now that Tony's at least still alive but man... I long for Tony and Jack from way back in Day 2.
Indeed, but at least these would be normal baddies (and probably lasting for one or two episodes at most), not the 24-style endless cycle of every-time-we-think-we-know-who's-running-everything-there's-always-somebody-higher-up. Doesn't that ever end? I mean...Henderson. Logan. Graem. The Bluetooth Gang. Jack's dad. Some random guy named 'Alan Wilson' cooked up at the last minute. Repeat ad nauseum. (If Wilson ever shows up again we'll probably find out he's working for somebody *else*, like Squidward Tentacles or some stupid shit like that.
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The Big Bad behind everything isn't Squidward Tentacles. It's Cthulhu. He's sleeping under the ocean in the sunken city of R'lyeh waiting until the stars are right so that he can resurrect the Great Old Ones.
That is not dead which can eternal lie.
And with strange aeons even death may die.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu#cite_note-14
Jack'll take him down, of course, fully cenmenting his position as the most badass CTU agent ever.
That is not dead which can eternal lie.
And with strange aeons even death may die.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu#cite_note-14
Jack'll take him down, of course, fully cenmenting his position as the most badass CTU agent ever.
We're missing the obvious choice here.
The Big Bad that Jack will end up having to bring down in the final episode of the series will be Teri Bauer.
She was working with Nina all along and had her own death faked to prevent the obvious connections and lines being drawn.
It's the only thing that makes sense.
Mark my words.
At the top of this conspiracy heap:
Teri.
Bauer.
The Big Bad that Jack will end up having to bring down in the final episode of the series will be Teri Bauer.
She was working with Nina all along and had her own death faked to prevent the obvious connections and lines being drawn.
It's the only thing that makes sense.
Mark my words.
At the top of this conspiracy heap:
Teri.
Bauer.
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