24: D7: 6:00AM - 8:00AM. Discussion and Spoilers. SEASON FINALE!

[hyzmarca]

In her defense, the kidnapping of the young girl was necessary given the circumstances. She couldn't very well have told the abusive father about the nuclear bomb. Her big mistake was not killing the abusive father in the first episode of the season.

She could've told the police that the father was abusive.

Instead of, you know, kidnapping the girl.

Getting her boyfriend to beat-up the father.

Stealing the father's car.

While she could have told the cops about the abuse (though it would be her word against his), she couldn't have told them about the nuclear bomb. Going from being killed by an abusive father to being killed by a nuclear fireball isn't much of an improvement.

I am going to agree that setting fire in the police car was a pretty stupid idea. She should have headbutted the cop, stolen his gun, forced him into the back of his police car, and stolen it, as it is much better transportation than the vehicle she was using.

It's hard to expect consistent, rational thought from someone in a situation such as Tony's. That doesn't justify his actions, of course ... but it might at least explain how Tony came to his conclusions.

Well, there is also the massive conspiracy to control the government that has, among other things, detonated a nuclear bomb in Valencia. Taking down one of it's heads did serve the greater good.
The fact that he went rogue to take them down isn't out of character so much as the fact that he planned to kill without interrogating, when it would have been so much better to offer death as a reward for cooperation. But he didn't exactly have time for a good ole' CTU torture session.

 

[TGTheodore]

The fact that it went rouge to take them down isn't out of character so much

Well, at least he didn't go lipstick or mascara.

--Ted

 

[RobertScorpio]

Well..just watched the finale last night (DVR)..and I loved it. I think this has been 24s best season in quite some time. Season one, to me, is still number one...but this was pretty good.

I even like Renee. I hope they pair her with jack (almost have a Robert Scorpio Ann Devane thing going on, if you know what that means)

Tony...ughghghghg..I still hate tony doing all this, but I could understand to some degree...

Overall, I am very pleased. Add this to Lost, and Big Bang Theory, and Hells Kitchen, and I had a great tv year this year

Rob

 

[Aragorn]

So how many episodes into season eight will the threat require Jack to free Tony from prison to help?

Anyone think it was typical 24 writing that Kim didn't grab a gun when chasing after the bad guy? Or that instead of threatening a super slow-moving Tony before shooting him, one of them just didn't, you know, walk over and pick up the gun before he got there? Maybe get some coffee, play some video games while beating Tony to the gun?

 

[RobertScorpio]

So how many episodes into season eight will the threat require Jack to free Tony from prison to help?

Anyone think it was typical 24 writing that Kim didn't grab a gun when chasing after the bad guy? Or that instead of threatening a super slow-moving Tony before shooting him, one of them just didn't, you know, walk over and pick up the gun before he got there? Maybe get some coffee, play some video games while beating Tony to the gun?

Ummmm...no I was not surprised. Its all in her character. She isn't really dealing with a full-deck of cards, and that has been the case since season one...that whole being 'blond' thing too...
Rob

 

[DarKush]

First episode: Average. Second episode: Bad. Season: Bad.

I can see that they were trying to go with more character based drama at the end there, but it didn't work for me at all. Since being infected Jack has been marginalised with Tony and then Agent Freckles getting all of the more interesting action scenes.

I will give them some credit for making Kim more proactive, going after her potential kidnapper, recovering the laptop and suggesting how it could be used to save her father. That wasn't so bad.

I'm not sure why we're supposed to care about Olivia or her parents. The only character in that situation I actually care about is Aaron Pierce, largely because of TNG Ensign Backgroundcharacter nostalgia.

Nice to see Dr. Beckett finally giving in and becoming eeeeeeevil.

As for the season as a whole, this felt like season four all over again. Terrorist attack to distract from another terrorist attack to distract from another larger terrorist attack.

The White House attack, especially, was garbage. Pure, unadulterated garbage.

Tony's motivations don't quite work for me. Michelle was only killed because she knew Jack was still alive after he faked his death and that was inconvenient to those who wanted to frame Jack for killing Palmer. For this, he's willing to kill innocent people ? Don't they have wives, husbands, children, parents, grandparents, friends etc too ?

I agree that the "His name is Alan Wilson" business made no sense. He was just a guy behind a desk until this episode. Shame they killed off the hot evil redhead, though.

I don't think the season was bad. But I agree with you about Wilson. There wasn't enough set up for him. It should've been him instead of Graeme Bauer in Season 5 talking to Logan and then perhaps being a shadowy presence in Season 6 to set this guy up more. His scenes didn't have much punch because I didn't know who he was or really cared all that much.

 

[Gil T.Azell]

What was Jacks Final Kill count this season??
Hell he even took out Dr. Carson Beckett.

 

[Trekker4747]

What was Jacks Final Kill count this season??
Hell he even took out Dr. Carson Beckett.

I have Jack's final Kill Count at 27.5 (half credit for the one where it isn't clear if he killed the sentry or if Agent Red did since they both pretty much fired at once.)

I may have missed some during the final battle(s) and am awaiting confirmation from a resource site.

Bauer Count.com

- This site gives Jack full credit for the first kill.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

So how many episodes into season eight will the threat require Jack to free Tony from prison to help?

I live in hope that they will kiss and make up! Sure enough, Tony's not bad, he's just out-Jacking Jack (and how hypocritical is Jack anyway not to see that? but oh no, Jack has to get on his high horse...) If Tony were a serious terrorist, he wouldn't have attacked the subway so long before rush hour, he talked the bad guys out of making more than one canister, etc. He was dropping hints that Ray Charles could have seen.

Very good scenes in the last hour especially but DAMMIT! did they really end the season without resolving anything?

Not sure I liked the reveal that Tony was mad about Michelle being preggers when she died. Isn't his anger over her death alone enough to motivate him? I can see him being off the rails, since he went to prison and suffered frak knows what simply because he tried to protect her. So for her to go and get herself killed afterwards makes everything he suffered a joke. He's just like Jack, only not with an absurd level of endurance to the point of being masochistic. Jack has no apparent breaking point and Tony is well past his.

 

[the_wildcard]

I also just caught this episode tonight on DVR and it was terrific. This entire season of 24 has been non-stop action, with a revelation/conclusion in every ep.

But I also agree that they didn't resolve as much as I thought they would in the very last hour. But I am still pleased because it leaves alot open for the next season. Its already looking good.

 

[Hermiod]

What was Jacks Final Kill count this season??
Hell he even took out Dr. Carson Beckett.

I vote they bring in Sheppard and kill him next.

 

[Harvey]

I thought both episodes were good, but not excellent. I liked this season, but didn't love it. Forgot to vote in that category, but if I had, I would have rated it "average" or "above average," depending on my mood. The ideological point of the season, articulated by Jack in his conversation with Agent Red, really annoys me, but I do have to give the year credit for articulating a consistent point, even if it's one that I think mischaracterizes the argument against torture.

And I did love that Tony was basically right in the end, even if he had done terrible things (not totally outside of his character, in light of how he acted in season three concerning Michelle). The big bad will probably go unpunished. The fact that we have yet another level of villains that are responsible for Logan is a little annoying. It's as if Graem and his ilk never existed (but in light of season six, that's not necessarily a bad thing).

 

[SlyCardie]

I'm wondering if we are going to Jack, soon after this season (in 24 time) going after this mysterious big organization in the next season.

That would be pretty cool I think, to have him and CTU take down the evil organization. Or maybe he'll do it all himself in a nice rip of Bond/SPECTRE.

 

[Harvey]

It would be great to have some follow-up, but if the end of season two is any indication (a similar cliffhanger involving a shadowy organization...hell, they could even be the same organization!) things will be quickly brushed under the table.

 

[Aragorn]

Season eight will be about a pattern of bizarre scientific experiments that will turn out to be about Tony looking for a door into a parallel universe where Michelle is still alive so he can be reunited with her.

 

[Lindley]

Who wants to bet that Wilson's boss is Nina's German dude?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Who wants to bet that Wilson's boss is Nina's German dude?

WILSON's boss? What the hell? Doesn't this rapidly multiplying chain of bosses ever END?

 

[Lindley]

[Qui-Gon]Question not the ways of the script, there's always a bigger fish![/Qui-Gon]

 

[Aragorn]

Come on! We're going for The Prisoner ending here! Jack Bauer will turn out to be the ultimate big bad behind everything!

 

[Hermiod]

Who wants to bet that Wilson's boss is Nina's German dude?

WILSON's boss? What the hell? Doesn't this rapidly multiplying chain of bosses ever END?

He was dealt with in the video game.