New series vs. Star Trek XII better for ENT fans (SPOILERS)

[Captain59]

With the money Star Trek XI is making, I highly doubt they would consider spawning it into a new series rather than making a sequel...although I long for a new Star Trek TV series and would probably enjoy one based on this movie. However, a new series would give many more opportunities to have ENT references. Three episodes of a TV series is more hours than a typical movie, and a new Trek series would span many seasons. The opportunties for ENT references; whether an appearance or two by T'Pol, a photograph of the crew in a lounge, or the actual NX-01 in a museum; are endless.

 

[Mach5]

Re: New series vs. Star Trek XII better for ENT fans

With the money Star Trek XI is making, I highly doubt they would consider spawning it into a new series rather than making a sequel...

I don't understand why people keep assuming that a sequel and a new tv show are mutually exclusive... Wait, is Moonves still CEO of CBS? Oh, goddammit, never mind

The opportunties for ENT references; whether an appearance or two by T'Pol, a photograph of the crew in a lounge, or the actual NX-01 in a museum; are endless.

I still think that TPTB should have put T'Pol into ST-XI, as an Academy instructor or something. It would have been a really great nod to ENT and wouldn't have been a stretch like this Archer thing (with which I'm still very much cool though).

 

[ChristopherPike]

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Can't I just have Season 5 of Enterprise? CBS can release an un-rated version later on, without all those distracting lens flares during decon scenes...

 

[Count Zero]

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Since TV licensing and movie production of Trek are in different company's hands, I don't see why we can't have both. CBS might want to cash in on the success of the movie. However, as it stands now, the movie sequel will arrive first.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

Re: New series vs. Star Trek XII better for ENT fans

CBS might want to cash in on the success of the movie. However, as it stands now, the movie sequel will arrive first.

Viacom owns a number of properties including Paramount Pictures.
Leslie Moonves, may head CBS television network but if Paramount produced a new TV series for 2011 Autumn it could air on these other Viacom owned properties: TV Land, MTV, Spike TV
or

Noticing its less-than-robust 6.2 million viewers average last year, NBC forged an "unusual" cost-sharing deal with satellite service DirecTV, in hopes of boosting ratings for the series. The effort proved unsuccessful however, as the ratings slipped further to 4.02 million. Still, the two companies recently inked two more seasons of the time-share deal.

May 6, 2009
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/friday-night-lights/friday-night-lights-renewed-de-28377.aspx

Both of these are alternative distribution.
A Blu-ray of a new series full season is of course under CBS Home Video/Paramount Home Entertainment but there are options other than the top 5 broadcast networks.
SyFy exclusive broadcast rights doesn't seem like it would happen. These days it's about 'Nielsen ratings +3' and that includes what Hulu, Apple iTunes can do the same week as the episode release.

This is also an option:
as original programming but an alternate distributor
http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=2771352&postcount=13

So for the title of this thread being better for ENT fans. a new series would be 2011 at the earliest. and possibly STXII would also be that year so for now the only new canon is STXI.
Yeah I threw it out there Star Trek on MTV. Highly doubtful the editing style would change and it's a long shot that it would end up on MusicTV the network unless they do pop music underneath ala 'the O.C.' [= that would not happen] but then again MTV is cable tv and needs ratings.

It could also end up on the new Epix TV channel
Epix is a premium television movie channel that is scheduled to launch in late 2009. The planned channel will be operated by Studio 3 Partners through a joint venture between Viacom, MGM and Lionsgate.
Epix will also offer a companion video on demand service.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epix_(TV_network)
Epix already will have 1 original series for 2010, a drama.
Perhaps Trek will end up here? HD Trek on-demand...?

 

[Ro Boat]

Re: New series vs. Star Trek XII better for ENT fans

Trek is always better on TV than in the movies. A new series would be great, but I don't think it will happen until after another film.

 

[ALF]

Re: New series vs. Star Trek XII better for ENT fans

It still makes no sense to me why they can't sanction a proper 2 hour TV movie that sends off the series better than it was.

That is infinitely more reasonable than a revival of the series.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

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Can't I just have Season 5 of Enterprise? CBS can release an un-rated version later on, without all those distracting lens flares during decon scenes...

We can dream..

Wouldn't it be cool if new Trek fans that got on board because of the movie discovered ENT and fell in love with it? And suddenly it was THE viable series to make a new show based on?

I do think that seasons 3 and 4 of ENT were quite similar in style to STXI. I would think it was an easy jump for a new fan to get into ENT that way.

But.. I will settle for seeing T'Pol in a lead role on the new Vulcan colony, helping to rebuild their race. If Nimoy can't make it into STXII due to uhh.. death.. they will need another prominent Vulcan from Old Trek, as a tie in.

 

[Middleman]

Re: New series vs. Star Trek XII better for ENT fans

Trek is always better on TV than in the movies. A new series would be great, but I don't think it will happen until after another film.

Agreed. I think you are looking at 2015 as the soonest (10 years after the cancellation of our beloved Enterprise), if it comes back to TV at all.

 

[Count Zero]

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They sold off the sets. I don't think it's ever coming back.

 

[ChristopherPike]

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They sold off the sets.

I had a thought about how they could get around that.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showpost.php?p=2984326&postcount=16

I don't think Star Trek designers have ever slavishly stuck with a previous look anyway, especially when there's a time gap between productions. From film to film, there are always subtle differences... and then occasionally no continuity what so ever (the A-bridge from Voyage Home, Final Frontier to Undiscovered). If the Director says the clean white look and touch screens are out and well-worn with buttons is back in, that's what goes.

Of course, you're welcome to argue a case for continuity with "These are the Voyages..." but I'll just stick my fingers in my ears and go la-la-la-la-la!

 

[Count Zero]

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Oh no, I'd never argue for continuity with TATV. That episode poses a real problem for telling ENT stories after Terra Prime, not so much because of Trip's death but because it suggests that nothing happened in the 5 or 6 years between those episodes. No one got promoted and nothing happened realtionship-wise.
Also, what we saw was a holonovel which by its very nature can't be totally accurate (I highly doubt someone recorded all the personal conversations between the ENT characters to give just one example).

What I wanted to say is that it's pretty clear that those who could don't want to bring ENT back. It's been 4 years, the actors have moved on, the sets are gone. It's not coming back. It was fun while it lasted but at one point, people have to let go or else it can become an unhealthy obsession.

 

[ChristopherPike]

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What I wanted to say is that it's pretty clear that those who could don't want to bring ENT back. It's been 4 years, the actors have moved on, the sets are gone. It's not coming back. It was fun while it lasted but at one point, people have to let go or else it can become an unhealthy obsession.

Wait... isn't this the textbook definition of Trekkie circa 1969-74?

"People" are free to follow their passions (so long as it doesn't harm others). But if it makes you feel any better, I can pretty guarantee I won't be developing anything that even resembles an unheathy obsession for J.J. Abrams' Star Trek.

 

[Count Zero]

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What I wanted to say is that it's pretty clear that those who could don't want to bring ENT back. It's been 4 years, the actors have moved on, the sets are gone. It's not coming back. It was fun while it lasted but at one point, people have to let go or else it can become an unhealthy obsession.

Wait... isn't this the textbook definition of Trekkie circa 1969-74?

I knew someone would say this. The cases are very different, though, I think.

"People" are free to follow their passions (so long as it doesn't harm others).

Of course. I just don't want to see anyone being sorely dissappointed that nothing is happening.

But if it makes you feel any better, I can pretty guarantee I won't be developing anything that even resembles an unheathy obsession for J.J. Abrams' Star Trek.

Mmh, I don't follow you here.

 

[apenpaap]

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I want ENT to be revived. I also think it was very stupid to cancel it after it's fourth season. If they had canceled after the first or second season, I would've understood (Though I would still be disappointed). Even after the third season, there would've been some logic to it, but just when (nearly) everyone agrees it's finally good? Just imagine what we would have missed out on if DS9 had been canceled after it's fourth season.
I know the chances of a revived ENT are very very low, but I still hope they'll make Trek XIII an ENT movie.

 

[ChristopherPike]

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I just don't want to see anyone being sorely dissappointed that nothing is happening.

This is certainly a sentiment you and I can agree on.

In the end, original-run fans are accustomed to 4 years of absolutely nothing happening. I guess we may have to settle for an incremental improvement in the show's reputation, as more and more new viewers discover it with a fresh perspective, unaware of the "death of a franchise" stigma imposed on it...

I want ENT to be revived. I also think it was very stupid to cancel it after it's fourth season. If they had canceled after the first or second season, I would've understood (Though I would still be disappointed). Even after the third season, there would've been some logic to it, but just when (nearly) everyone agrees it's finally good? Just imagine what we would have missed out on if DS9 had been canceled after it's fourth season.

Actually I think DS9 would've been in the same position as ENT is now. I say that as a viewer around at that time. Of course, the good will surrounding Star Trek in the early 90's and its syndicated status, ensured it was never in any danger of cancellation. Coming after the popularity of TNG, fans didn't take to the show straight away. Avery Brooks was considered a fairly weak leading man, for several years following the Pilot. The episodes initally thought of as dull, talky and far too focused on Bajoran aspects like their religion. The arrival of the Jem'Hadar and a worthy adversary in the Dominion gave the show a new drive. The addition of Worf and other familiar Trek icons, finally turning the tide in pursuading audiences who were still holding out. Its those later successes which meant earlier efforts got reappraisal, in the light of how DS9's mythology all fitted into place. Sound familiar?

I know the chances of a revived ENT are very very low, but I still hope they'll make Trek XIII an ENT movie.

TV or other media has better odds in my opinion, though it may be looked down on by Hollywood as a "second-class" product. The latest Star Trek film is now a wildly successful and proven formula, good for two or three further films until it fizzles out. Beside most Enterprise fans know deep down, we were never likely to see Scott, Jolene, Connor and the rest on the big screen.

 

[Aikiweezie]

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It was fun while it lasted but at one point, people have to let go or else it can become an unhealthy obsession.

I am perfectly willing to admit that I suffer from this unhealthy obsession.

PLEASE Paramount - throw us Enterprise fans a bone!!!!!!!!

 

[commodore64]

Enterprise isn't coming back. It's too bad. It was a fun show.