Why all the secrecy during production? (spoilers)
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After all the madness that's gone on in here and the Future of Trek subforum in the last, oooo, five years, you need to ask this question?
It's bad enough we obsess over the speculation we generate ourselves with even more obsessively speculating over what we know is going to happen.
If a plot synopsis comes out, people like we find on here, would then desperately try to fill in the gaps, and some of it would be accurate, simply using random chance and a little background knowledge.
Much better to maintain secrecy.
It's bad enough we obsess over the speculation we generate ourselves with even more obsessively speculating over what we know is going to happen.
If a plot synopsis comes out, people like we find on here, would then desperately try to fill in the gaps, and some of it would be accurate, simply using random chance and a little background knowledge.
Much better to maintain secrecy.
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Re: Why all the secrecy during production?
Yeah. I'm sure that was the reason, because boy did that movie die at the box office. People sure do think that movie sucked. Woo.
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Yeah. I'm sure that was the reason, because boy did that movie die at the box office. People sure do think that movie sucked. Woo.
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People think no one ever landed on the moon; People don't understand the nature of the epsilon-delta definition of a limit; People don't know why it is funny Chief O'Brien used the 'impulse response filters' on the warp core. People think this new star trek movie is good.
People can go F- themselves. I'm a Star Trek fan. Whatever people think; I hate this movie with a passion. It's no Star Trek - though it may be fun and popular it lacks depth and gravity and a sense of what the future could and should be.
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I'm a Star Trek fan and I love the movie. I don't need to deny that it exists as what Star Trek represents. I love TOS, TNG, DS9, I am okay with VOY and ENT (to a degree), but I don't say "it's not Star Trek", because it is. Just like this movie is Star Trek. You don't have to like it, you can plug your ears all day long if you feel like, but it does not change one iota that this new direction is still Star Trek, just unfamiliar territory.
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Re: Why all the secrecy during production?
I beg to differ. I view it more then a plot device. It certainly advanced the plot. Without the destruction of Vulcan, Spock wouldn't have been emotionally compromised and wouldn't have had to relinquish command. If that didn't happen, we'd be witnessing the voyages of the Starship Enterprise under the command of Captain Spock instead of Captain Kirk. It's also completely reshaped the Star Trek universe. I thought it was more then just a plot device. Without the destruction of Vulcan, the movie would've had a different ending.
I beg to differ. I view it more then a plot device. It certainly advanced the plot. Without the destruction of Vulcan, Spock wouldn't have been emotionally compromised and wouldn't have had to relinquish command. If that didn't happen, we'd be witnessing the voyages of the Starship Enterprise under the command of Captain Spock instead of Captain Kirk. It's also completely reshaped the Star Trek universe. I thought it was more then just a plot device. Without the destruction of Vulcan, the movie would've had a different ending.
The plot is quite a simple one: very easy to describe to people who'd then not bother to see it. By keeping it super secret, people jumped to all manner of weird conclusions. I couldn't imagine why Ambassador Spock couldn't do more time travel to correct the errors created by Nero, or why Nero wanted to kill Jim Kirk. But it wasn't till the "Countdown" comics came out that it was obvious Spock had been pulled into the black hole accidentally. When we were shown footage of Vulcan imploding - Vulcan! - we all assumed it was Romulus, from the beginning of the movie. And we relaxed.
By keeping it all super secret, by not even releasing the novelization early, the producers kept potential audiences at fever pitch.
And it worked.
Similarly, we knew very little about ST IV. When "Entertainment Tonight" released footage of the Klingon ship crashed into San Francisco Bay, most of us assumed the crash was when they arrived in the 20th century, early in the movie, and thus we had no idea how they'd get it home.
Re: Why all the secrecy during production?
In this day and age, if you want a plot synopsis, simply go to Wikipedia or Memory Alpha about ten minutes after the first official screening empties out of the cinema.
Exactly! But they did it! And it worked!
In this day and age, if you want a plot synopsis, simply go to Wikipedia or Memory Alpha about ten minutes after the first official screening empties out of the cinema.
Exactly! But they did it! And it worked!
They clearly wanted us to see the incredible opening sequence, before opening the movie for any criticism. 
Re: Why all the secrecy during production?
The opinions of greasy, unwashed masses who have never watched pure Trek are meaningless to me.
The opinions of greasy, unwashed masses who have never watched pure Trek are meaningless to me.
They clearly wanted us to see the incredible opening sequence, before opening the movie for any criticism.
That opening scene would have been incredible but it was ruined by bad, overly shakey hand held camera work.
butthurt people can be so funny
Re: Why all the secrecy during production?
Everyone's forgotten you're a parody poster, dude.
Everyone's forgotten you're a parody poster, dude.
Re: Why all the secrecy during production?
Box office success does not equate to a good, or well written, movie.
Box office success does not equate to a good, or well written, movie.
Star Trek produced within the period of 1964-2005.
Heretic! It's Star Trek produced within the period of 1964-1979!
