Starships

[GNDN]

Oh I know this is hardly the worst offense, but it would have been another nice, refreshing touch, if this reboot-verse had gone back to a clear division between Romulans and Klingons.

This would have then allowed a different retelling of a later, stronger alliance between the two that we never saw fully realized on screen.

 

[sunbari1]

I think someone from the movie needs to make a ships of Star Trek XI technical manual w/ pics & specs. Doubt it'll ever happen but I can always hope.

AGREED!!! The upcoming issue of Star Trek Magazine is supposed to have a blowout on Star Trek IX so lets hope there is an article about the new starships.

 

[RAMA]

Kobayashi Maru

 

[miraclefan]

WHERE did you get this!?

And to think everyone was worried we wouldn't be getting anymore ''Kitbashes"

 

[Overgeeked]

...

Shouldn't your sig read "Star Trek XI.V"?

 

[Peter the Younger]

Has anybody managed to get pics of the Kobayashi Maru? It looked to me like a twin-nacelle/twin-hulls ship but with heavily modified secondary hulls.

I'm pretty sure it closely resembled one of the "official" designs for the Kobayashi Maru floated since TWOK (specifically this one.) I found it interesting that the KM was a United Starship, where most fans had interpreted it to be a civilian ship.

My initial thought, too, but I can't help but think they weren't really thrusters but rather just a glow indicative of the warp power level. Still, I could see why this might lead to many a misinterpretion by the less informed...

But then why does the glow at the back of the Kelvin's nacelle get visibly stronger when it makes its suicide run at the Narada? It's going at impulse, not warp, and the shot strongly implies that the ship is actively accelerating.

Good point.

"All power to the impulse engines" perhaps?

I don't want to accept that it could be a thruster unless Abrams himself actually releases a diagram with that labelled "warp thruster." I'm pretty sure Matt Jefferies was keen to maintain the idea that warp engines did not have exhaust ports like conventional rockets.

So I shall continue to interpret the glowey light as simply a glowey light indicative of the power in use.

My No Prize in this case would be to claim that, since you are running high energy plasma through the warp engines anyway, you can vector this plasma aft for additional thrust when needed.

 

[Gepard]

Kobayashi Maru

Wow. Where'd you get the really clean image of the ships? It doesn't look like it's from the version that...uh, fell off a truck

 

[miraclefan]

Wow. Where'd you get the really clean image of the ships? It doesn't look like it's from the version that...uh, fell off a truck

Right, feel off a truck!

 

[cbspock]

Here is the article..
http://www.icgmagazine.com/wordpress/2009/05/12/where-no-dp-has-gone-before/

-Chris

 

[Overgeeked]

Whoa. Are there any photos of them going to warp?

No cuz they don't spread like in TNG anymore, they just just jump in a flash.

They still spread.

 

[smosquito]

All of the new starships are changed for the worse.

One of the worst things about the movie is that they could not leave well enough alone. I will say it again, in all caps.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE OLD ENTERPRISE DESIGN. THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH USING IT WITHOUT PAYING ANYONE TO REDESIGN IT. IT STILL LOOKS FUTURISTIC TODAY.

Throw some modern effects and some old models together and you have charm, and a brilliant movie. Throw new designs and modern effects together whilst claiming the mantle of Star Trek when there is an established 40 year old canon and you leave me ice cold. This is one of the worst features of the new film.

The new ship is less attractive than the old one. The bridge, The exterior, everything.

 

[Hyperspace05]

Lol

 

[Phily B]

I like the new ship designs, maybe the little engine at the back of the nacelles is a vent of some kind? I think they look really cool though. The one with 3 nacelles looks like a Miranda class, slightly re-designed obviously - third nacelle seems a little excessive.

I wonder if there is any point in having more than two nacelles other than looks?

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

I wonder if there is any point in having more than two nacelles other than looks?

It's to flush out anyone who religiously follows Gene Roddenberry's design rules regarding nacelles, so that Abrams can cannabalize their brains into the biomechanical computer for his time machine. The other set of brains will consist of Alias, Lost, Fringe and Star Trek viewers who have been prepped for time travel mechanics as they function within his time machine.

 

[Overgeeked]

There's only two complaints I have with the new ship design: the bulbous look of Ent's nacelles, and the neck being set so far back on the engineering hull.

I've always loved the kit-bashes the prods come up with for the minor ships.

 

[Amaris]

All of the new starships are changed for the worse.

One of the worst things about the movie is that they could not leave well enough alone. I will say it again, in all caps.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE OLD ENTERPRISE DESIGN. THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH USING IT WITHOUT PAYING ANYONE TO REDESIGN IT. IT STILL LOOKS FUTURISTIC TODAY.

Throw some modern effects and some old models together and you have charm, and a brilliant movie. Throw new designs and modern effects together whilst claiming the mantle of Star Trek when there is an established 40 year old canon and you leave me ice cold. This is one of the worst features of the new film.

The new ship is less attractive than the old one. The bridge, The exterior, everything.

I love the new Enterprise. The original was graceful and beautiful, like a show horse. This one makes me think more of a quarterhorse. Not as graceful, but still attractive, compact and powerful, strong where it counts.

One little thing by the way, you really don't have to type in all caps, because on an internet forum it is yelling, and yelling isn't generally received well unless it's TOS Spock doing it right before he cracks a smile and laments for the women.

J.

 

[smosquito]

e little thing by the way, you really don't have to type in all caps,

Thanks for the tip. I actually do understand internet etiquette.

MY POINT WAS THAT THE NEW ENTERPRISE IS HORRIBLE COMPARED TO THE THE OLD DESIGN IMO.

 

[yenny]

These are the name of the seven starships, that was at the spacedock with the Enterprise, and destroyed by Nero over Vulcan. Also, USS was mention in front of those names.

USS. Antares or Centaurus
USS. Farragut
USS. Hood
USS. Mendez or Vincenz
USS. Wilcott
USS. Nimitz
USS. Truman

 

[Tom Servo]

And the USS Mayflower as well...

 

[Praetor]

So then we still have the same problem: eight names for seven ships.

Is there any way an eight-ship fleet might not have counted the Enterprise?