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Weekend Actuals are In: A&D:46.5, ST:43 million

Borgminister said:
Peter the Younger said:
The composition of the crowds on the second weekend suggested that the word of mouth had quite an effect. I expect that will continue, and casual movie goers will keep Trek's business chugging along nicely. I'm particularly thinking of the kind of viewer who might hop into the theater on a hot summer day, or who combine a movie and shopping at the mall. Not much else on the plate for them until Harry Potter.
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I still wonder why they can't 'reserve' a late or midnight showing in IMAX for Trek the way that thing's been performing.

My IMAX won't show it until later on for some reason.
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You think that's bad? There were NO IMAX showings anywhere here in Western Canada.
 
Maybe I'm missing something here... but Box Office Mojo had A&D as the number 1 movie for the weekend, and this morning changed it to Star Trek in the number 1 spot.
 
Angels and Demons just BARELY beat out Trek.....

But thats okay. I'll bet Trek pulls in a decent amount over Memorial Day weekend with a solid #3 spot (Under Terminator 4 and Night at the Museum 2).
 
superdeluxe said:
Star Trek might hit 200 million by memorial day!
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Actually, looks like $180M if the general movie trends keep going (cut around half the take every week). It might snag up the extra $20 (and then some) if nothing compelling knocks it down any farther until Transformers comes up.

Unfortunately, it's still below really making money (due to the enormous production and marketing budgets) on its own. But then those expectations were always a bit on the insane side (and would have been for any movie)... I still don't know where they think they would be hitting the half-billion raw income from.

As for Angels and Demons.. erm.. was that supposed to be a big movie? I really missed the buzz on that one.
 
Vance said:
Unfortunately, it's still below really making money (due to the enormous production and marketing budgets) on its own. But then those expectations were always a bit on the insane side (and would have been for any movie)... I still don't know where they think they would be hitting the half-billion raw income from.
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Not really its set to make double its production budget from the box office and make dozens and dozens of $$$ from DVD/Blu Ray, selling rights (already got $24 from FX), and stuff like toys/posters.

The ad budget is not all put up against the prouction budget and lets remember ST was never expected to make TRANSOFRMERS, INDY 5 OR TDK numbers and paramount are going to make more profit off this film once all said and done than any previous TREK film.

latest estimates say final total will 350-400 worldwide total.
 
Vance said:
superdeluxe said:
Star Trek might hit 200 million by memorial day!
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Actually, looks like $180M if the general movie trends keep going (cut around half the take every week). It might snag up the extra $20 (and then some) if nothing compelling knocks it down any farther until Transformers comes up.

Unfortunately, it's still below really making money (due to the enormous production and marketing budgets) on its own. But then those expectations were always a bit on the insane side (and would have been for any movie)... I still don't know where they think they would be hitting the half-billion raw income from.
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$200 million by next Monday is possible, and $190 is almost assured.

If it drops 40% versus last week, it will collect $15 Monday-Thursday. If it drops 25% over the 4-day weekend (IM dropped 18% last Memorial Day), that'll be around $32 million. That would bring the total to $194.

If Star Trek can do as well as IM did last year and make a little more midweek, it will be really close to $200 million.

A lot of "ifs" but that's what we're all doing.

As for A&D, it was meant to be a big movie (marketing-wise and production-wise), but its this year's Prince Caspian.
 
Not really its set to make double its production budget from the box office and make dozens and dozens of $$$ from DVD/Blu Ray, selling rights (already got $24 from FX), and stuff like toys/posters.
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It hasn't made it's production budget quite yet, but it's close to it. That's not a problem if JJAbrams was attempting to mitigate a lot the costs up-front for the entire trilogy, though. Admittedly, I can't really figure out where the budget actually went...

As for the BR discs, I wonder how well it will do... granted, that's where I'll get the movie, but I really wonder if it's going to have legs then. I can't honestly hazard to guess. I'm sure the fans will get it, naturally... but beyond that?

The ad budget is not all put up against the prouction budget and lets remember ST was never expected to make TRANSOFRMERS, INDY 5 OR TDK numbers and paramount are going to make more profit off this film once all said and done than any previous TREK film.
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In raw dollars, possibly... though I kinda doubt it. TWOK's legs are insanely long, after all, and new prints are selling well now. But that may be an unfair comparison anyway. It will definately do better, after adjusting, than anything from Generations onwards.
 
Vance said:
Unfortunately, it's still below really making money (due to the enormous production and marketing budgets) on its own. But then those expectations were always a bit on the insane side (and would have been for any movie)... I still don't know where they think they would be hitting the half-billion raw income from.
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How many times do we have to say emphatically no to this. Your statement would make the movie industry bankrupt. Every blockbuster movie they make besides Titanic would be a bust.

EVERY BIG MOVIE COSTS THIS MUCH NOW. And every successful blockbuster follows the type of numbers that Star Trek has made. Obviously they will make money on this film, they make money on films with the same budget that make just $150 million domestically even if you were to add the advertising costs.
 
I wonder where this guy is now ? Or that Dayton fellow..or a couple of others like them

Yeah, I know I shouldn't do that...but it's fun sometimes:D

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=2805975#post2805975
BolianAdmiral said:
Opening day/night will be the ONLY time this film makes any money of any respect. Otherwise, it'll make Paul Blart look like Dark Knight.

Nobody of any number is gonna go see this thing. Opening day/night, all the Trek fans will be lined up, clinging to the hope that somehow they'll be able to save this thing, but otherwise, it'll be a royal floppa-roppa.

Every time I've been in a theater where the trailers for Trek have been shown, the audience reactions range from light chuckles, to laughter, to outright groans. People who like Trek will see this thing. Other people will not.

Think about it... if someone has already had 40+ years to get into Trek, and never did, what could possibly make them want to see this? They're just not into Trek. Nothing will change their mind... for them, they like movies with raw, mindless, action, where lots of things go KA-BOOM, with hot cars, and hot women... in other words, movies like Transformers. For this audience, Trek is a series loved by chess-club geeks, who give strange hand signals... and they won't change their mind about it... if they could, they would have done so with ENT or one of the more recent films.

But, if they (Paramount) need to see the dismal box office returns to show them the grim reality, then so be it. Trek better hope to god no other movie opens the same day, otherwise the OTHER film will be the one that rakes in money.
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Vance said:
It hasn't made it's production budget quite yet,
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As of recent, the estimates put the production budget at $150 Million but TrekMovie.com had been saying that the budget was closer to $130-$140 Million.

That's not a problem if JJAbrams was attempting to mitigate a lot the costs up-front for the entire trilogy, though. Admittedly, I can't really figure out where the budget actually went...
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Toward the movie ;)
 
^ $216 million world total off a 150-160 budget (99% of reports till say 150) and monday totals wil ltake the domestic level pass thattarget anyway.
 
As for the BR discs, I wonder how well it will do... granted, that's where I'll get the movie, but I really wonder if it's going to have legs then. I can't honestly hazard to guess. I'm sure the fans will get it, naturally... but beyond that?
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DVD sales are ridiculous. Crap like "Twilight," which made $190 million domestic sold 3 million copies ON ITS FIRST DAY. So that probably added $50-60 million right there. "Iron Man" sold 7.2 million in one week ($120-140 million). "Dark Knight" sold 13.5 million in one week.

I think Trek will sell at least as much as "Iron Man" since there's enough regular Trek fans and then casual viewers. Consider it this way, taking the average ticket price of $7.18, over 20 million tickets for Trek have been purchased. Of course a lot of this is repeat audience, but even if there are only 10 million unique viewers, that's already a large pool of people that could and probably will buy a DVD or BD. So, I think Trek will make a good amount of sales overall.
 
Vance said:
As for the BR discs, I wonder how well it will do... granted, that's where I'll get the movie, but I really wonder if it's going to have legs then. I can't honestly hazard to guess. I'm sure the fans will get it, naturally... but beyond that?
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What? Box office numbers are indicative of the strength of retail DVD sales for a movie. What are you talking about. See numbers above. DVD sales will be quite strong.

Also, everyone that doubts this movie is really that strong at the box office returns needs to remember ALL you have to do is compare the movie to Iron Man's numbers. According to Saturday and Sunday numbers, Star Trek has even better legs than Iron Man. It had a smaller % drop on either day than IM. That is incredibly strong.
 
Trek may make #2 for Memorial Day..according to Variety "Word of Mouth" is packing em in...with many repeat viewers..


sorry to all the naysayers..this film seems to have legs..
 
Vance said:
It hasn't made it's production budget quite yet, but it's close to it. That's not a problem if JJAbrams was attempting to mitigate a lot the costs up-front for the entire trilogy, though. Admittedly, I can't really figure out where the budget actually went...

As for the BR discs, I wonder how well it will do... granted, that's where I'll get the movie, but I really wonder if it's going to have legs then. I can't honestly hazard to guess. I'm sure the fans will get it, naturally... but beyond that?
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At a certain point I think it is going to become increasingly silly to debate whether or not this movie is going to be a financial success. Clearly it is going to surpass all reasonable expectations on that front.

Sweet music to my ears, personally.

A better tactic would be to spend time criticizing the weak aspects of the movie itself, which were pretty glaring, and there are many things that could be greatly improved for the now inevitable sequel(s).
 
I know one shouldn't really say big words but at this point I have no doubt Star Trek will be viewed as a success by Paramount and we will get a sequel.


Because above all else the experiment has succeeded.
The new movie showed that there is a chance for the franchise to make more money for them.
People besides the old fans can be persuaded to like and see a modern Star Trek film. The nerd-lame stigma can be defeated.

I'm sorry but the way these 2 weeks have gone, I don't see how Paramount could let this just end here.
 
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