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Weekend Actuals are In: A&D:46.5, ST:43 million

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^^No, the Lira is no longer used (although I wonder if one could still trade them in for Euros)...I was talking pre-Euro...and I was exagerrating a bit. Although, it DID used to take ridiculously large number of Lire to buy anything. A half-million Lire was like $100 or $200US.

EDIT TO ADD:
I just looked it up...They aren't legal tender, but a person could still trade the Lira for Euros at banks until sometime in 2012, with a conversion rate of about 2000 Lire per Euro.
 
Not really its set to make double its production budget from the box office and make dozens and dozens of $$$ from DVD/Blu Ray, selling rights (already got $24 from FX), and stuff like toys/posters.

It hasn't made it's production budget quite yet, but it's close to it. That's not a problem if JJAbrams was attempting to mitigate a lot the costs up-front for the entire trilogy, though. Admittedly, I can't really figure out where the budget actually went...
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it's production budget was 140 million..
"Last year 'The Dark Knight' and 'Iron Man' both were embraced by critics as incredible filmmaking as well as big action-adventure movies. This one has been even better reviewed," said Paramount vice chairman Rob Moore. "You look at the level of critical response and the audience reaction, we definitely feel like the movie is set to play into Memorial Day and into the summer."

Moore said he expected the movie, which had a $140 million budget, should gross over $200 million total this summer, even with competition like "Terminator: Salvation" coming on May 21 and "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" arriving in theaters July 15.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/05/10/entertainment/e085641D04.DTL&am

also remember early in the release of a film the studio gets a higher percentage . the reason why food sales are so important to the theatres.
 
I've heard conflicting numbers for the production cost, going from $150 to $250 at times, but I'm not sure if the higher numbers are including marketing (or, worse, the forstalled marketing from last summer). It'll definately go through Memorial Day...

Still, pretty huge budget all around. I just hate to see this kind of money spent on any movie, largely when I'm looking at it and wondering where all that insane amount of cash actually went. (Not being snarky to Trek here, I honestly just don't see it.. CGI is supposed to be a cheaper alternative... and if the money's going to actors, then they're getting paid too damn much!)
 
a 140 million is not bad for a science fiction film with a great deal of effects.
what is odd is that demons and angels cost more about 150 is what i have seen.
 
I've heard conflicting numbers for the production cost, going from $150 to $250 at times, but I'm not sure if the higher numbers are including marketing (or, worse, the forstalled marketing from last summer). It'll definately go through Memorial Day...

Still, pretty huge budget all around. I just hate to see this kind of money spent on any movie, largely when I'm looking at it and wondering where all that insane amount of cash actually went. (Not being snarky to Trek here, I honestly just don't see it.. CGI is supposed to be a cheaper alternative... and if the money's going to actors, then they're getting paid too damn much!)


Actors salaries have increased at 500% above annual inflation and this makes it likely that movie making will become as it will price will rocket out of anyone's capacity to make.

MOVIES COULD COST A BILLION TO MAKE SOON.

Actors are very greedy and nasty and selfish charging $20 million for 2 hours work.

They should get unknowns instead and cut the cost down to about $10 million maximum.A law could be passed capping the total money spend on making a movie.
 
I've heard conflicting numbers for the production cost, going from $150 to $250 at times, but I'm not sure if the higher numbers are including marketing (or, worse, the forstalled marketing from last summer). It'll definately go through Memorial Day...

Still, pretty huge budget all around. I just hate to see this kind of money spent on any movie, largely when I'm looking at it and wondering where all that insane amount of cash actually went. (Not being snarky to Trek here, I honestly just don't see it.. CGI is supposed to be a cheaper alternative... and if the money's going to actors, then they're getting paid too damn much!)

I'm not sure CGI ends up saving money. What it does do is save some time by allowing them to do more complicated shots. So while the same shot might be cheaper to do in CGI vs. models, it also allows them to do more stuff, which then ends up costing more in total in the long run.
 
Actors are very greedy and nasty and selfish charging $20 million for 2 hours work.

Two hours of results, but not work. Still, a typical shoot is about 6 weeks of long time (60 hours), and most movie actors only do two or three movies a year. (Which is why so few work in television, which is a tighter grind for much less money). Still, even with that, the salaries are getting more and more insane, and you're right that they're pricing themselves out of the market.
 
I'm not sure CGI ends up saving money. What it does do is save some time by allowing them to do more complicated shots. So while the same shot might be cheaper to do in CGI vs. models, it also allows them to do more stuff, which then ends up costing more in total in the long run.

It's the law of not being frugal. The more money a movie seems to get in its budget, the less careful they seem to be about actually spending it. Remember that TWOK was insanely low budget, even at the time, yet it easily holds up, visually, as the best of the Trek movies. To me, the new Trek, even with its high price tag, STILL looks like an iPod exploded in a brewery...
 
I'm not sure CGI ends up saving money. What it does do is save some time by allowing them to do more complicated shots. So while the same shot might be cheaper to do in CGI vs. models, it also allows them to do more stuff, which then ends up costing more in total in the long run.

It's the law of not being frugal. The more money a movie seems to get in its budget, the less careful they seem to be about actually spending it. Remember that TWOK was insanely low budget, even at the time, yet it easily holds up, visually, as the best of the Trek movies. To me, the new Trek, even with its high price tag, STILL looks like an iPod exploded in a brewery...

That's your opinion though. Personally, while I don't like the look of the new engineering, all the sets at least look real. Watching TWOK again the other day, a lot of things just looked like they could be cheap sets from a sitcom (especially the Regula One main room).
 
I've heard conflicting numbers for the production cost, going from $150 to $250 at times, but I'm not sure if the higher numbers are including marketing (or, worse, the forstalled marketing from last summer). It'll definately go through Memorial Day...

Still, pretty huge budget all around. I just hate to see this kind of money spent on any movie, largely when I'm looking at it and wondering where all that insane amount of cash actually went. (Not being snarky to Trek here, I honestly just don't see it.. CGI is supposed to be a cheaper alternative... and if the money's going to actors, then they're getting paid too damn much!)


Actors salaries have increased at 500% above annual inflation and this makes it likely that movie making will become as it will price will rocket out of anyone's capacity to make.

It doesn't work like that. The money they're spending on the movies is determined by how much revenue they're getting. They spend so much money on movies because people are spending a lot of $ to watch them. If they weren't covering their costs, they'd start making smaller movies.

MOVIES COULD COST A BILLION TO MAKE SOON.

Actors are very greedy and nasty and selfish charging $20 million for 2 hours work.

They should get unknowns instead and cut the cost down to about $10 million maximum.A law could be passed capping the total money spend on making a movie.

lol.....Consumers are spending billions of dollars a year on movies (via movie tickets, DVDs, TV broadcasts....). It's because of them that so much $ is spent on the movies. If you don't think movies should be made with such huge budgets, then stop watching big budget movies. Every dollar you spend going to see big budget movies is further encouragement for Hollywood to make more of them.
 
MOVIES COULD COST A BILLION TO MAKE SOON.

No.

Oh, I dunno, I think we're edging closer to it, particularly in the 'action' genre where Hollywood seems to bank on the 'all or nothing' mentality. When you throw in marketing costs, we're pretty damn close already (look at the huge amount of money that Crystal Skull threw around, to say nothing of Revenge of the Sith).

Will it be routine? I doubt it, Hollywood, too, is in a 'debt spending' bubble that's due to collapse at any time. Not many of these extravagent expenditures makes its money back, and something's going to give - particularly in a climate where lending just isn't happening like it used to. I think we'll see a few "billion dollar blowouts" for some big-name franchises, but not many. The rest of Hollywood is going to have to learn to live on a budget again.
 
Firstly, 150-200 on a movie is a far leap from 1,000,000,000. We're no where near that an "soon" isn't a reality. Secondly, it would be cost prohibitive to do this since only one movie every 5 years or so cracks the billion dollar mark. THIRDLY, actors' salaries aren't that big of a chunk of a movie's budget. Lastly, actors get a salary with a percentage of the box office take, so they're not getting paid a large chunk of the budget to begin with.
 
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=2805975#post2805975
Opening day/night will be the ONLY time this film makes any money of any respect. Otherwise, it'll make Paul Blart look like Dark Knight.

Nobody of any number is gonna go see this thing. Opening day/night, all the Trek fans will be lined up, clinging to the hope that somehow they'll be able to save this thing, but otherwise, it'll be a royal floppa-roppa.

Every time I've been in a theater where the trailers for Trek have been shown, the audience reactions range from light chuckles, to laughter, to outright groans. People who like Trek will see this thing. Other people will not.

Think about it... if someone has already had 40+ years to get into Trek, and never did, what could possibly make them want to see this? They're just not into Trek. Nothing will change their mind... for them, they like movies with raw, mindless, action, where lots of things go KA-BOOM, with hot cars, and hot women... in other words, movies like Transformers. For this audience, Trek is a series loved by chess-club geeks, who give strange hand signals... and they won't change their mind about it... if they could, they would have done so with ENT or one of the more recent films.

But, if they (Paramount) need to see the dismal box office returns to show them the grim reality, then so be it. Trek better hope to god no other movie opens the same day, otherwise the OTHER film will be the one that rakes in money.
See kids? This is why I don't make overconfident predictions about box office numbers, presidential elections, and such. If I'm right, everyone will eventually know it without needing me to tell them, and if I'm wrong...
 
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