john titor
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I don't get the hate for ST V. I thought it was quite good. Nemesis was the worst.
What is the Worst Trek Film?
- Thread starter Argus Skyhawk
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My list, from Best to Worst
1) The Wrath Of Khan
2) The Search For Spock
3) The Voyage Home
4) The Motion Picture
5) The Final Frontier
6) First Contact
7) Generations
8) Insurrection
9) The Undiscovered Country
10) Star Trek (2009)
11) Nemesis
1) The Wrath Of Khan
2) The Search For Spock
3) The Voyage Home
4) The Motion Picture
5) The Final Frontier
6) First Contact
7) Generations
8) Insurrection
9) The Undiscovered Country
10) Star Trek (2009)
11) Nemesis
Either The Motion Picture or Final Frontier is the worst. I can't believe so many people picked Nemesis.
TFF is almost as bad. But the Troika scenes and chemistry saved it. Plus, it has more heart and soul than NEMESIS could ever have hoped to have.
To be fair, that original death scene was changed in the final theatrical cut. Soran shooting Kirk through the back didn't survive the test audiences.
Putting First Contact directly under "The Motion Picture" and (especially) "The Final Frontier" is just mean.
I take it you didn't like the new one much? 
Putting First Contact directly under "The Motion Picture" and (especially) "The Final Frontier" is just mean.
First Contact is a Zombie Action flick. Besides it has that "Star Trek" line which makes me throw up in my mouth a little. I like it because it is fun, and epic, but it did lead to Enterprise, and a wodgeload of dodgy Borg episodes in Voyager as well as Seven of Eleven. So I dislike it for its subsequent effect on the franchise.
The Final Frontier was the last time I had fun in a cinema watching a Star Trek film, unburdened by canon and expectations and internet spoilers. Until the latest movie, which was fun in the cinema, but only began to rot in my estimation when I got home and made the mistake of thinking about it. Final Frontier had dismal effects, a laughably bad story, and the best character moments of any Trek movie ever. The big three were spot on, and aside from Scotty bumping his head, I haven't enjoyed Trek characters as much since the Original Series.
There's a line in Insurrection, when Picard asks "Does anyone remember when we were explorers?" That was The Motion Picture, the only time that there has been an exploration in the spirit of Star Trek on the big screen. It had scope, vision, hope, imagination and was forward-looking in a way no Trek movie has been, and to some degree, very few of the spin-off series episodes. That it was dull, overlong, sleep-inducing, and absolutely lacking in any of the character and magic that I loved the original series for is certainly an issue, and probably why no similar Trek movie has ever been attempted again, but better to aspire for the impossible and fail, than to aim low and succeed. The end result is that I'll watch The Motion Picture over and over again, while the TNG movies gather dust.
I feel the same way about Lynch's Dune.
It couldn't even get Picard's hair at the Academy correct. Something several flashback episodes done on FAR lower budgets and with greater time constraints managed to do.
I voted for Nemesis, with Star Trek V closely behind. Actually, I did not like any of the TNG films. Except for Patrick Stewart, Brent Spiner and Michael Dorn, I never much cared for the other actors. I am more or less a TOS and a DS9 fan. DS9 kicked ass. If any series deserves a film, they do.
As of my post, this is the vote tally.
Nemesis 93
Star Trek V 66 Watched this today. It wasn't as bad as I previously remembered, but not a great film, with bad actors and Klingons with rubber heads. However, after "The Voyage Home", this film was a disappointment.
Inserrection 33
Generations 17
ST:The Motion Picture (ST I) 16 This is one of my favorites actually. I think a lot of people did not like it because it was a bit slow moving without a lot of action. Then there was the strange, yet totally hot, yet bald celebate woman. This movie grew out of an abortive attempt to launch a second Star Trek series using most of the TOS actors. I think it could have been a good show and am sad it fell through.
First Contact 6 This is how you kill Kirk? Of all ways?
The Wrath of Khan (ST II) 4 (Which is a bit odd, since most people would find this film to be their favorite, or a second choice behind IV.
Star Trek III got no votes. Bringing Spock back to life, the Klingon female officer with the totally rad 80's haircut. Shat's curly toupee'. However, Christopher Lloyd was in it, and whatever Christopher Lloyd is in is usually worth a look.
Why not add the new film to the list? I am sure that it would get a few votes.
As of my post, this is the vote tally.
Nemesis 93
Star Trek V 66 Watched this today. It wasn't as bad as I previously remembered, but not a great film, with bad actors and Klingons with rubber heads. However, after "The Voyage Home", this film was a disappointment.
Inserrection 33
Generations 17
ST:The Motion Picture (ST I) 16 This is one of my favorites actually. I think a lot of people did not like it because it was a bit slow moving without a lot of action. Then there was the strange, yet totally hot, yet bald celebate woman. This movie grew out of an abortive attempt to launch a second Star Trek series using most of the TOS actors. I think it could have been a good show and am sad it fell through.
First Contact 6 This is how you kill Kirk? Of all ways?
The Wrath of Khan (ST II) 4 (Which is a bit odd, since most people would find this film to be their favorite, or a second choice behind IV.
Star Trek III got no votes. Bringing Spock back to life, the Klingon female officer with the totally rad 80's haircut. Shat's curly toupee'. However, Christopher Lloyd was in it, and whatever Christopher Lloyd is in is usually worth a look.
Why not add the new film to the list? I am sure that it would get a few votes.
Has anyone voted the NEW movie the worst one yet?!
I'm sure someone out there in the BBS hates the new film with a passion and probably ranks it at the bottom.
I'm sure someone out there in the BBS hates the new film with a passion and probably ranks it at the bottom.
What, like the Son'a? They were new.
The last time a truly new adversary was successful was in Star Trek IV, and it was just a plot device. Counting the series, of course, there's the Dominion, and Insurrection would have been immeasurably improved if it has just been the Enterprise fighting the Dominion.
That would be me! LOL I put it at the bottom of my list. For me it's . . .
1. The Wrath of Khan
2. The Search for Spock
3. The Undiscovered Country
4. The Motion Picture
5. First Contact
6. Generations
7. The Final Frontier
8. Nemesis
9. The Voyage Home
10. Insurrection
11. Trek '09
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