Why did Spock not try to [spoilers]?

[shakov]

So, Spock is marooned on Delta Vega so that he can be witness to the destruction of vulcan. Why did he not head for the federation outpost, then using transwarp beaming simply beam himself, or scotty somewhere to warn the federation. Why do nothing?
Just curious if I missed something.

 

[Gojira]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

Nero took Spock's ship when he was marooned on Delta Vega. Spock couldn't go anywhere.

 

[Basil]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

Good point, but why not use time travel to go back and fix whatever problems Shinzon -- er, Nero -- is going to cause in the first place? Why not beam whole sections of his space drill away or even just key parts instead of having to parachute over? Heck, why not beam a photon torpedo on auto destruct into the vicinity? There are a million variables for what could be done, but I don't think this film was meant to be scrutinized.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

So, Spock is marooned on Delta Vega so that he can be witness to the destruction of vulcan. Why did he not head for the federation outpost, then using transwarp beaming simply beam himself, or scotty somewhere to warn the federation. Why do nothing?
Just curious if I missed something.

because Spock didn't know where on the planet he was or where the outpost was, only Kirk knew it's location because the escape pod told him where it was. So it wasn't until Spock and Kirk came together that Spock learnt about the outposts location.

 

[Bobatiel]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

So, Spock is marooned on Delta Vega so that he can be witness to the destruction of vulcan. Why did he not head for the federation outpost,

It's a big planet and a long walk.

It's like walking form Egypt to Chile. Can't be done. Oceans, great distance, mountains etc.

 

[shakov]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

In the novel it is established that spock had visited the outpost several times, and concluded that the communications were not feasable.

 

[kythe]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

because Spock didn't know where on the planet he was or where the outpost was, only Kirk knew it's location because the escape pod told him where it was. So it wasn't until Spock and Kirk came together that Spock learnt about the outposts location.

This makes sense, but how did Spock know Scotty was at the outpost? Wasn't it Spock who came up to him and said, "Montgomery Scott?". He must have known something about the outpost.

 

[Kpnuts]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

So, Spock is marooned on Delta Vega so that he can be witness to the destruction of vulcan. Why did he not head for the federation outpost,

It's a big planet and a long walk.

It's like walking form Egypt to Chile. Can't be done. Oceans, great distance, mountains etc.

Even though Kirk and Spock did it in the movie?

 

[adamisme]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

you know how it is Spock, parked his ship and couldn't find it lol

 

[Classic Fan]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

So, Spock is marooned on Delta Vega so that he can be witness to the destruction of vulcan. Why did he not head for the federation outpost, then using transwarp beaming simply beam himself, or scotty somewhere to warn the federation. Why do nothing?
Just curious if I missed something.

because Spock didn't know where on the planet he was or where the outpost was, only Kirk knew it's location because the escape pod told him where it was. So it wasn't until Spock and Kirk came together that Spock learnt about the outposts location.

Fair point.

Spock knew of Deta Vega from the first Galactic Barrier mission, and knew of some outposts on the planet, but not knowing what planet he was on and where abouts he was marroned in the first place, and without any scanning equip or communications or even a damn sign post to speak of, he couldnt do fuck all but wait until some random guy turns up in a cave, and happens to be Kirk.

The only way he couldve saved vulcan was to tell Kirk to do a slingshot around the sun for timewarp, but that wouldnt be fun, would it.

 

[shakov]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

Was that actually Vulcan that he saw, or just a mind meld depiction?
If is was a meld representation, then it is possible that there was nowhere to go, until kirk arrived with the location of enterprise.

 

[DarthAkuma]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

Why not beam whole sections of his space drill away or even just key parts instead of having to parachute over? Heck, why not beam a photon torpedo on auto destruct into the vicinity? There are a million variables for what could be done, but I don't think this film was meant to be scrutinized.

Actually, the film takes care of this one. Transporting (like communications) is not available when the drill is pulsating.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

because Spock didn't know where on the planet he was or where the outpost was, only Kirk knew it's location because the escape pod told him where it was. So it wasn't until Spock and Kirk came together that Spock learnt about the outposts location.

This makes sense, but how did Spock know Scotty was at the outpost? Wasn't it Spock who came up to him and said, "Montgomery Scott?". He must have known something about the outpost.

He didn't, he was saying his name and repeating it in the sense that he was shocked to find Scotty there. Scotty was the last person he expected to find there.

Spock knew of Delta Vega from the first Galactic Barrier mission, and knew of some outposts on the planet,

You are confusing Delta Vegas. The Delta Vega Kirk and Spock were dropped on was located in the Vulcan star system near to Vulcan and was not the same Delta Vega from the Galactic barrier mission.
Abrams pretty much said this was the case and said he just threw the name Delta Vega in there as an easter egg for trek fans.

 

[Mr. B]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

In the novel it is established that spock had visited the outpost several times, and concluded that the communications were not feasable.

Wait, the outpost was incapable of communicating with the outside world? ...not even Vulcan? It looked close enough to use a signal lamp.

 

[shakov]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

According to the book, communications were very limited. YEt Spock was able to construct a transwarp device out of spears and bearskins.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

YEt Spock was able to construct a transwarp device out of spears and bearskins.

pardon?

 

[shakov]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

I think it was similar to a line in City on the Edge of Forever.

 

[NJOberheim]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

Yeah, I think it should be "Stone knives and bear skins"

 

[Classic Fan]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

Spock knew of Delta Vega from the first Galactic Barrier mission, and knew of some outposts on the planet,

You are confusing Delta Vegas. The Delta Vega Kirk and Spock were dropped on was located in the Vulcan star system near to Vulcan and was not the same Delta Vega from the Galactic barrier mission.
Abrams pretty much said this was the case and said he just threw the name Delta Vega in there as an easter egg for trek fans.

I didnt catch that one, i assumed he used the same planet, but wouldnt that confuse the hell outa the fans using one name for two different planets if we didnt know about that teeny weeny little detail.

And on the whole, as vulcan was so close in the mind meld scene, it was obviously a meld visualisation for Kirk to relate to. So, i assumed it was the same DV.

Is there a link just out of interest, duno how i missed that detail.

 

[Jerikka Dawn]

Re: Why did Spock not try to save vulcan?

I don't know why people are claiming that Spock didn't know of or didn't know where the outpost was. He specifically told Kirk, in the movie, that the outpost wasn't that far from where they were. Any further misunderstanding on this point means you didn't see the movie.