Alternate ending?

[DontFeedPhil]

While watching Star Trek for the 4th time I had an idea. At the end when Kirk And Spock are looking at Nero as he falls into the blackhole and then eventually the Enterprise falls into it too...
Ive come up with a different idea and I want to know peoples opinions about it...
Say instead of what we got, Kirk and The Enterprise stupidly getting too close to the BlackHole and getting stuck in by the gravity...
Nero has one last ditch attempt to Kill Spock and the entire enterprise crew and suddenly one of the tenacles from the Narada latches out and grabs the Enterprise. Kirk and Co thought they were fine until this. Nero isnt able to totally drag the E into the BlackHole but he does manage to pull them close enough that they end up in the same position as they did in the movie and have to eject the warp cores to get away...
Would this type of ending have worked better than what we got? Basically Kirk and Sulu being too stupid and getting too close to the BH?

 

[Franklin]

Yes. A tractor beam to break out of. Something other than just sitting there blasting away at an already doomed ship instead of realizing the danger to your own ship and getting out of there. Target fixation, I think they call it. Not a good trait.

 

[anothertrekfan]

Your devotion to this movie is admirable.

 

[Franklin]

Your devotion to this movie is admirable.

The problem the Enterprise faced at the end of the movie was of its own making.
To be honest, the plot was very very weak. Even many of the 95% positive reviews on RT say that.
The movie was so enjoyable because the characterizations were so spot-on, thanks to both good character writing and brilliant casting. If any of that had been off at all, the story alone was not strong enough to save the movie.

I do hope for a story as strong as the characters in the next movie.

 

[GulDucati]

I agree with you guys - that was a rather large oversight on the part of these brilliant young officers. On a related note, is Nero really dead? Perhaps an after-credits scene should've been the wreckage of the Narada reappearing on the other side of the black hole, right in front of the Enterprise-D?

 

[miraclefan]

I agree with you guys - that was a rather large oversight on the part of these brilliant young officers. On a related note, is Nero really dead? Perhaps an after-credits scene should've been the wreckage of the Narada reappearing on the other side of the black hole, right in front of the Enterprise-D?

Oooooo THAT would have been neat! but make the ENT-D the ENT-E with captian data!

 

[All Seeing Eye]

I was honestly expecting you to say the Entperise gets sucked in and goes back in time to a point where they can save Vulcan.

 

[Peter the Younger]

I was honestly expecting you to say the Entperise gets sucked in and goes back in time to a point where they can save Vulcan.

For about one second that's what I thought they were gonna do. Thank God they didn't.

As for the alternate ending actually suggested, sure, it would have been more solid if the Narada had threatened them right up till the end (for one thing, we would have avoided a giant argument over the morality of Kirk and Spock). And I did love those tentacles.

I take heart in the fact that Orci and Kurtzman have done as many Q and A sessions as they have, and that questions like these have come up on multiple occasions. I have the sense that they will take these sort of comments into consideration on the next script.

 

[GulDucati]

Now that you've pointed it out, the ending is kind of like shooting a guy who's already sinking in quicksand. Not very heroic, but emotional I guess.

 

[GulDucati]

I agree with you guys - that was a rather large oversight on the part of these brilliant young officers. On a related note, is Nero really dead? Perhaps an after-credits scene should've been the wreckage of the Narada reappearing on the other side of the black hole, right in front of the Enterprise-D?

Oooooo THAT would have been neat! but make the ENT-D the ENT-E with captian data!

True, but Enteprise - D would suggest that perhaps there would now be time to save Romulus given Nero's knowledge.

 

[Cakes488]

Your devotion to this movie is admirable.

The problem the Enterprise faced at the end of the movie was of its own making.
To be honest, the plot was very very weak. Even many of the 95% positive reviews on RT say that.
The movie was so enjoyable because the characterizations were so spot-on, thanks to both good character writing and brilliant casting. If any of that had been off at all, the story alone was not strong enough to save the movie.

I do hope for a story as strong as the characters in the next movie.

You are right on... I like the move a whole lot...but I didn't drink the Kool-aid like some people around here.....

 

[xman]

Your devotion to this movie is admirable.

The problem the Enterprise faced at the end of the movie was of its own making.
To be honest, the plot was very very weak. Even many of the 95% positive reviews on RT say that.
The movie was so enjoyable because the characterizations were so spot-on, thanks to both good character writing and brilliant casting. If any of that had been off at all, the story alone was not strong enough to save the movie.

I do hope for a story as strong as the characters in the next movie.

+1 on all of that.

X

 

[TrekGuide.com]

When the Enterprise went to warp inside the black hole's gravity well, I was thinking to myself, "Well, this is obviously going to cause a slingshot effect, throwing them two days back in time."

Although that would have led to a hackneyed reset-button ending, allowing them to save Vulcan after the fact, it would have been more consistent with established Trek physics (as well as Trek hackneyed reset-button endings).

 

[Hartzilla2007]

When the Enterprise went to warp inside the black hole's gravity well, I was thinking to myself, "Well, this is obviously going to cause a slingshot effect, throwing them two days back in time."

Although that would have led to a hackneyed reset-button ending, allowing them to save Vulcan after the fact, it would have been more consistent with established Trek physics (as well as Trek hackneyed reset-button endings).

Interestingly enough it sounds like according to Orci's Q & A at trekmovie that the slingshot effect isn't possible in the new Trekverse.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I don't have a problem with this aspect of the plot, as is.

 

[Ovation]

When the Enterprise went to warp inside the black hole's gravity well, I was thinking to myself, "Well, this is obviously going to cause a slingshot effect, throwing them two days back in time."

Although that would have led to a hackneyed reset-button ending, allowing them to save Vulcan after the fact, it would have been more consistent with established Trek physics (as well as Trek hackneyed reset-button endings).

And made for a far LESS satisfying conclusion. NO MORE RE-SET BUTTONS.

 

[Jeyl]

And made for a far LESS satisfying conclusion. NO MORE RE-SET BUTTONS.

For me this whole movie is a reset button. Instead of going forward, we restart back to the beginning.
:P

Ya, I hated how Nero met his end as well. If you watch the scene again closely, you don't even see Kirk mouth the words "Arm phasers. Fire everything we've got!", you just see him walk off camera and than Sulu says "Yes, sir.". That could easily have been "Mr. Sulu, get us out of here."

Offering assistance and deliberately making the situation worse does not show the character has a good side. More like he knows what Nero's response will be and he just wants something tangible on the screen so no one will ask questions.

Did Kirk ask the Gorn to surrender during their plight in "The Arena"? No. He saw the Gorn laying there helpless, and he made the choice not to kill him. It's like the writers took the whole morality issue from the Arena and said "Kirk shows mercy? That's lame. Kirk should have asked the Gorn to surrender, and when the Gorn refuses, Kirk than kills him for destroying Cestus III. The Metron will certainly acknowledge that Kirk offered mercy and that should be sufficient enough."

 

[TrekGuide.com]

For me this whole movie is a reset button. Instead of going forward, we restart back to the beginning.

Technically, this movie picks up 100 years after the last episode of "Enterprise," and is simply continuing the "Enterprise" timeline into the next century.

 

[Jon1701]

For me this whole movie is a reset button. Instead of going forward, we restart back to the beginning.

Technically, this movie picks up 100 years after the last episode of "Enterprise," and is simply continuing the "Enterprise" timeline into the next century.

Before or after the "Future Guy" meddled with it?

 

[od0_ital]

... Nero has one last ditch attempt to Kill Spock and the entire enterprise crew and suddenly one of the tenacles from the Narada latches out and grabs the Enterprise. Kirk and Co thought they were fine until this. Nero isnt able to totally drag the E into the BlackHole but he does manage to pull them close enough that they end up in the same position as they did in the movie and have to eject the warp cores to get away...
Would this type of ending have worked better than what we got? Basically Kirk and Sulu being too stupid and getting too close to the BH?

Ya know, I prefer the endin' we got over this, just 'cause that's been done a million times already. The good guys thing the bad guy is down for the count, but he's able to make one last grasp at 'em...

The best use of this was in Scream 2, when Sidney shot the killer in the head to make sure he stayed down, and said, "Not in my movie."