No offense, but I certainly hope so!
Will terminator salvation make more than star trek?
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If only the nerds had gone to Star Trek XI then it would have flopped big time like Nemesis. Star Trek XI has brought in many fans.
T3 only did so well internationally because Arnold has a very large fanbase overseas. T4 won't have Arnold so it won't do as well.
Of course I'm a Trek fan and not a Terminator fan so I'll be rooting for Trek.
Arnold's worldwide box office appeal had slipped a lot with The 6th Day and Collateral Damage. T3's box office was a combination of the appeal of the Terminator franchise and Schwarzenegger's popularity in that particular role.
I think the big FX set pieces of T4, as well as Christian Bale being in the movie, will be enough to deliver a bigger worldwide gross than T3.
I'm certain T4 will open big. My question is whether or not it will stay that way. It looks cool, but will it be good?
I'm not allowed to discuss the film in depth (yes I have seen it already), but I can say that Arnold was in the film. I have heard though that there are two versions completed with one having Arnold and the other unedited with Roland (playing Cyberdyne Systems Model 101).
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Oh, I'm not saying that the film didn't reach a broader audience than most of the previous ones. Clearly, the box office take is a good indication that a lot of non-fans went to see it as well. I just think there are always going to be some people --usually young people-- that will look upon Star Trek as "uncool", and therefore won't bother going to see it.
nx1701g, can you say whether you liked the film?
Wild guesses for final domestic gross:
Star Trek: $240 million
Terminator: $225 million
Terminator will certainly make more internationally though.
Another interesting question: Will Star Trek make more $ than Up? Just recently read on another board that, adjusted for inflation, even the lowest grossing Pixar movie made $220 million (though they've been on a somewhat downward trend recently).
Star Trek: $240 million
Terminator: $225 million
Terminator will certainly make more internationally though.
Another interesting question: Will Star Trek make more $ than Up? Just recently read on another board that, adjusted for inflation, even the lowest grossing Pixar movie made $220 million (though they've been on a somewhat downward trend recently).
My full review isn't allowed to be posted until the 21st, but: it was pretty good.
i'm a fan of Terminator but this "Salvation" thing just doesn't have too much appeal. yes, i'll likely be watching it opening weekend but i just don't see fans being as fanatical about terminator salvation as star trek. i think over a month's cycle, Star Trek would be the winner. As for opening day, all things are in favor of Terminator due to the labor day weekend.
I think T4 will probably open bigger. However, Star Trek seems to have that magic appeal: the critics love it, the fans pretty much dig it, and mainstream audiences have responded, in a big way. I think Star Trek is this year's Iron Man.
Kind of interesting comparison, especially if you link T4 and The Dark Knight. Both are dark movies. Both star Christian Bale. Last year, Dark Knight trumped Iron Man, even though it was the second highest grossing film of the year. Will T4 trump Star Trek? Or will it be the other way around?
I think -- unfortunate as it may seem -- that the new Transformers movie may trump them all, and could end up as the biggest film of the summer, if not the year. Maybe closely followed by Harry Potter.
Just my prediction, though.
Kind of interesting comparison, especially if you link T4 and The Dark Knight. Both are dark movies. Both star Christian Bale. Last year, Dark Knight trumped Iron Man, even though it was the second highest grossing film of the year. Will T4 trump Star Trek? Or will it be the other way around?
I think -- unfortunate as it may seem -- that the new Transformers movie may trump them all, and could end up as the biggest film of the summer, if not the year. Maybe closely followed by Harry Potter.
Just my prediction, though.
I think Trek stands little chance of beating either Transformers or Harry Potter. Trek has a very good chance at 3rd biggest hit of the summer though.
T4 will beat star trek, Terminator is far more popular then Trek could ever be, I'm affraid.
When people are still demanding more Terminator 40 years after it was made you might be able to say that with more authority.
What he said.
And a Bond movie without Connery won't work, right?
Seriously though Arnold is a non-factor. Two words: Christian Bale cha ching
Are you serious. The 4 best Batman movies have no Robin. The '89Batman, its sequel, Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. Again, Arnold as much as I love him isn't necessary for the thrust of the story.
So they got that CGI affect down then? Did it look good though?
I third this sentiment.
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