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$35.5 Million more from overseas

FWIW According to one news site in Germany it's doing worse than the last 4 Trek movies on their starting weekend here. Apparently it had only slightly more than 50 % of Insurrection's number of viewers.
 
Don't understand why its underperforming in Germany. Outside of the USA they are the biggest market for Trek.
 
Don't be such a wet blanket, I thought his comment was funny.

That's because you can't count.

And we're not wrong. :)

Yes you are, and when the movie fails to make back it's production cost and is rightfully labeled as a flop, you will be proved wrong. Wait for it. Your predictions that it's going to be an enormous success are what's funny. More so than all those predictions that this movie was going to be outstanding, which it more than failed to be.
 
FWIW According to one news site in Germany it's doing worse than the last 4 Trek movies on their starting weekend here. Apparently it had only slightly more than 50 % of Insurrection's number of viewers.

Oh well chalk off another reason to dislike the Germans ;)


Well it's no wonder the film's not doing too great in Germany if they throw women out of the cinemas because it's supposed to be a men's night. :rolleyes:

Odo: Take a chill pill mate. Either you're trolling, or you want this thing to flop, which it won't... it hasn't.
 
There are no cinemas in Bizarro World. Also no maths. Strange country.


The math is correct.

The math is in error because your numbers and assumptions (and you make several doozies) are wrong.

Now, if you're just posting to provoke people you're doing a fine job - otherwise, you've lost this argument. ;)

My numbers are in no way assumptions. Those numbers are all over the internet. 160 million in production costs and an estimated 100 million in advertising. Use your search engine.
 
It cost 160 million to produce and God knows what to advertise. Some estimate that the advertising cost up to 100 million. It's only made 86 million of that back. Without counting for advertising, it's still 74 million dollars in debt. Add the unconfirmed estimate for the advertising and it's 174 million dollars in debt, which is more that the original production cost. Flop. Big fat flop.

You so thoroughly have no idea what you're talking about it's almost hilarious.

Paramount was predicting a $50 million opening weekend. THAT is how THEY defined success. They got more than half again as much, their second most successful opening weekend EVER for a live action film.

This movie is an absolute unqualified success, and anyone in Hollywood who knows shit will tell you so.

But don't take my word for it. Go play around boxofficemojo.com for a while. Find any movie - ANY movie - that had an opening weekend this big, with Sunday and Monday trends so surprisingly high, that DIDN'T make at least $250 million. I dare you.
 
Don't dare him. He wouldn't see it if the figures danced in front of him wearing nothing but a sombrero....and a shout. :)
 
The math is correct.

The math is in error because your numbers and assumptions (and you make several doozies) are wrong.

Now, if you're just posting to provoke people you're doing a fine job - otherwise, you've lost this argument. ;)

My numbers are in no way assumptions. Those numbers are all over the internet. 160 million in production costs and an estimated 100 million in advertising. Use your search engine.
so 260 million right? Last I remember seeing an estimate, it's already half way there. I do not see any difficulty for this movie to make back it's production cost, and then some.
 
No-one said you're a liar, just that you're wrong. There's a huge difference. Care to calculate it?

And why are you so eager for this to fail?
 
Now call me a liar again. You people are the ones who have no clue what you're talking about.
I, at least, am not trying to call you a liar. I'm simply stating that if the total budget is 260 million as you say, then the movie is already half way there after opening weekend. Saying it's a flop is a ridiculous statement at this point, because there is no way to really tell except wait and see.

Now what if it turns out you are wrong. If it does flop, I'll admit that it's flopped. I'll still enjoy the movie, because I happen to feel its a good one, but I'll still admit it didn't perform as well as we'd hoped. Will you have the same courtesy if it does succeed?
 
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