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Star Trek - $7.50 million on Monday

Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

I'm going to an IMAX showing tonight, so I hope Tuesday's numbers are just as good.
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

It cost 160 million to produce and God knows what to advertise. Some estimate that the advertising cost up to 100 million. It's only made 86 million of that back. Without counting for advertising, it's still 74 million dollars in debt. Add the unconfirmed estimate for the advertising and it's 174 million dollars in debt, which is more that the original production cost. Flop. Big fat flop.
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

It cost 160 million to produce and God knows what to advertise. Some estimate that the advertising cost up to 100 million. It's only made 86 million of that back. Without counting for advertising, it's still 74 million dollars in debt. Add the unconfirmed estimate for the advertising and it's 174 million dollars in debt, which is more that the original production cost. Flop. Big fat flop.

Uh?

We are at $86 Million after 4 days. There are more days to come. $200 Million domestic is a lock at this point, it may go as high as $250. At least another $100 Million will come from overseas, probably more.

Then there are the TV Rights, Rentals, DVD, Blu-Ray, Merchandising, Novelization, Soundtrack.............
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

It cost 160 million to produce and God knows what to advertise. Some estimate that the advertising cost up to 100 million. It's only made 86 million of that back. Without counting for advertising, it's still 74 million dollars in debt. Add the unconfirmed estimate for the advertising and it's 174 million dollars in debt, which is more that the original production cost. Flop. Big fat flop.

:guffaw:ROFL, no. I hope that is sarcasm because that makes no sense. If that were true then Paramount wouldn't have a viable business model. They would just never make movies. Say the total production budget was that high and they were going to be happy with $50 million, which is what Paramount was orginally was saying was their goal for opening weekend, obviously if they got that they were planning on making a profit.

It would make absolutely no business sense for them to even put that much money into a film intially without knowing what their return would be. I guarantee you that Paramount has plenty of Harvard businessmen telling them exactly how to run a company successfully and how much oney in a film is appropriate and will give them profit.

They know better than any of us exactly what the return on their investment will be and so far it is nothing but pink bunnies and flowers coming out of the mouths of their executives. If they were pissed you would hear it as easily as you heard it when Spock said "Live Long and Prosper" to the science council. So obviously this film is a huge success monetarily and for once on this forum I need no IMO and can just say that you're totally off base.
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

According to Box Office Mojo, it made 86,706,315 in the US so far.
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

It cost 160 million to produce and God knows what to advertise. Some estimate that the advertising cost up to 100 million. It's only made 86 million of that back. Without counting for advertising, it's still 74 million dollars in debt. Add the unconfirmed estimate for the advertising and it's 174 million dollars in debt, which is more that the original production cost. Flop. Big fat flop.

:guffaw:ROFL, no. I hope that is sarcasm because that makes no sense.

He's just posted exactly the same post word for word in 2 threads in the same forum, declaring a 1 week old movie with a big opening weekend a flop.

I think we can safely rule him out as somebody who's opinion is worth noting.
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

It cost 160 million to produce and God knows what to advertise. Some estimate that the advertising cost up to 100 million. It's only made 86 million of that back. Without counting for advertising, it's still 74 million dollars in debt. Add the unconfirmed estimate for the advertising and it's 174 million dollars in debt, which is more that the original production cost. Flop. Big fat flop.

For the last time its $150 million to produce, swear I've told you this before along with well other people :rolleyes: and the ad budget looks not to be over $100 million...and the ad budget does not all go on top of the dam production budget.

I will copy n paste this for when I have to tell you this again tommorow.
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

It cost 160 million to produce and God knows what to advertise. Some estimate that the advertising cost up to 100 million. It's only made 86 million of that back. Without counting for advertising, it's still 74 million dollars in debt. Add the unconfirmed estimate for the advertising and it's 174 million dollars in debt, which is more that the original production cost. Flop. Big fat flop.

First, your numbers are high end...I still see the budget listed at $120 to $150 million. I haven't seen advertising listed at $100 million ANYWHERE. I'd be surprised if it were more than $50-60 million. Its made over $120 million worldwide so far in 5 days!! The very idea that I ST movie could make $100 million in a week would have been unheard of till now. Its a huge success!! Regardless Paramount has many ways to make its money back, be it DVDs, merchandising.
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

He doesn't know the real costs.

Neither do you or I.

There are people who know exactly what this really cost, where the money came from, where the money goes, and what their current income from the movie is and what it indicates about future box office.

Those people work for Paramount.

They're celebrating and calling for a sequel.

Argument over. :)
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

For the studio who said they were happy b/w 50 -75M opening weekend, I doubt this was a flop.
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

Use your search engines. The original production cost proposal was 120 million. The movie ended up costing 160 million fact. The advertising costs reach somewhere in the ballpark of 100 million. These numbers are all over the internet. Deny it all you want, it doesn't change the fact that many websites are reporting the same numbers. Use your search engines and stop calling people idiots.
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

Use your search engines. The original production cost proposal was 120 million. The movie ended up costing 160 million fact. The advertising costs reach somewhere in the ballpark of 100 million. These numbers are all over the internet. Deny it all you want, it doesn't change the fact that many websites are reporting the same numbers. Use your search engines and stop calling people idiots.

Nobody's denying anything, dude. Why don't you show us some links? And while you're at it, why don't you give us some links to some projected returns and actual returns? And while you're at it, why don't you do some research into DVDs, merchandising, tie-ins, and promotional fees? And then why don't you put it into a handy spreadsheet with some other movies' statistics for comparative analysis? Maybe put in successful and unsuccessful film performance one week, one month, and six months out.

After you do all that, why don't you present your work to Paramount's marketing department so they can marvel at your genius?
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

It puzzles me how anyone would actually want this thing to fail....which it hasn't, by the way.
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

It puzzles me how anyone would actually want this thing to fail....which it hasn't, by the way.

Believe me, if this movie were failing at all, you would not be able to escape it. Trek fans love to lament the mismanagement of their franchise. It's been all we've had to tall about for over a decade.
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

Use your search engines. The original production cost proposal was 120 million. The movie ended up costing 160 million fact. The advertising costs reach somewhere in the ballpark of 100 million. These numbers are all over the internet. Deny it all you want, it doesn't change the fact that many websites are reporting the same numbers. Use your search engines and stop calling people idiots.

Nobody's denying anything, dude. Why don't you show us some links? And while you're at it, why don't you give us some links to some projected returns and actual returns? And while you're at it, why don't you do some research into DVDs, merchandising, tie-ins, and promotional fees? And then why don't you put it into a handy spreadsheet with some other movies' statistics for comparative analysis? Maybe put in successful and unsuccessful film performance one week, one month, and six months out.

After you do all that, why don't you present your work to Paramount's marketing department so they can marvel at your genius?

Seconded. Odo's_Bucket, if you have hard data, please present it, otherwise you are wandering in the land of supposition.

J.
 
Re: Star Trek - $7.64 million on Monday

Just to be clear, this is just an estimate for the time being. Hopefully, the actual will come in about the same or higher.
The actual turned out to be a tad lower than the estimate - $7,502,026 (-64.4%) - but still a great number.
 
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