Where was Nero and ship taken after Kelvin encounter??

[srombomb]

First let me say, LOVED LOVED LOVED this movie.

But, can someone please tell me if they know where Nero and his ship went after the Kelvin slammed into them? If the Klingons moved in, which I'm sure they did being so close to the neutral zone, did Nero and his ship get captured or just Nero? Did Nero and all of his shipmates go to Rura Penthe?

Also, if Narada was captured, that represents some serious repercussions for the Federation having to deal with reverse engineered technology from the Klingons right?

The only other thing I can think of is. Nero wanted to hide out somewhere and a prison planet actually isn't a half bad idea. Maybe he and his crew shut main systems of ship off, parked it on one side of a moon, maybe cloked it for 25 years. Then activated it again when "the wait was over" and escaped the planet, and auto beamed back to the ship, then engaged 40 or so Klingon ships who were in hot pursuit?

I'm picking up the novelization Tuesday, and hope that a lot of this stuff is explained in greater detail.

Hopefully!

If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know!

 

[Roshi]

In a huge gravity filled plot hole. In essence: who knows. Maybe the novelization will delve into that, but so far, no explanation other than pure speculation.

 

[Nick Ryder]

Well they probably limped away at impulse, avoiding any ships and such, blowing away any that got in their way until they could find maybe a Romulan shipyard or something that they could bribe/intimidate to get repairs effected. Then just hung out somewhere preparing for Spock. For all we know some of the goons on Nero's ship were the kids of original crew. Seemed like Starfleet sure as hell knew what Romulans looked like and who they were by that point. Maybe there was another Romulan skirmish that was started by Nero

 

[Nick Ryder]

Or Robau continued to kick his ass for the next 25 years... even after being Pike'd.

 

[Jeri]

In the comics (Countdown), his crew were the same people who worked as miners for him when they were a simple mining ship. And the crew was dedicated, knowledgeable, and very loyal to the captain.

So, I don't know how becoming essentially pirates might have changed that, but it wasn't what they were used to. The tattoos were not decorations; they were ritualistic symbols of the loved ones they lost.

 

[Jeri]

Or Robau continued to kick his ass for the next 25 years... even after being Pike'd.

Well, now, that does have appeal! High Pharoah Robau taking names in The Afterlife.

 

[Thrawn]

There was apparently originally a scene of them all escaping Rura Penthe in the movie, but it was cut for pacing and because it required more explanation to justify than it actually provided.

 

[Tom Servo]

Ya I don't understand how people have an issue with him vanishing for 25 years, honestly. Hell it's fucking space. It's huge. While he has a huge ship, compared to the vastness of space it is a speck. I can find it very easy that he was able to hide out in the vastness of the milky way .

 

[alienFanatic]

It was handled with short shrift, but I got the impression that Nero simply remained near the black hole waiting for Spock to emerge. He had no idea when it would happen, since I think the whole time travel thing took him by surprise in the first place. (He had to demand the stardate from the Kelvin's commander just to establish what the hell had just happened to him.)

As far as repairs, we never found out just how much damage the wreckage of the Kelvin did to Nero's ship. Since it was a mining vessel, it likely could have found local materials to rebuild itself if it needed to.

I just got the impression that Nero sat there for 25 years, watching the Black Hole and waiting. (It was pretty nifty, though, that none of his crew ever aged. I mean, Botox has nothing on those guys!)

 

[Boomer359]

(It was pretty nifty, though, that none of his crew ever aged. I mean, Botox has nothing on those guys!)

I think Romulans, as genetic cousins to Vulcans, have a similarly prolonged lifespan. I think they live to be about 200 or so. As for their appearance, looking at Spock as an example, he only seems to have aged about 15-20 years in 100 or so years between the events of Star Trek VI and when he went back in time, so I don't find it terribly inconsistent that Nero doesn't appear to have aged too much in the time between the Kelvin and the rest of the movie.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Ya I don't understand how people have an issue with him vanishing for 25 years, honestly. Hell it's fucking space. It's huge. While he has a huge ship, compared to the vastness of space it is a speck. I can find it very easy that he was able to hide out in the vastness of the milky way .

Exactly. I mean the ship took heavy damage and they needed to get their act together. I'm glad they cut the Klingon scenes, because that would have raised more questions than it would have answered, and would probably made zero sense. How come an entire crew gets captured and their ship just waits for them to make an escape for 25 years? The Klingons would have disassembled it for sure.

I think the suspense, them lurking in space for all that time, makes it more believable and somewhat cooler to the main audiences- it makes them more menacing as antagonists.

Trek has suffered from wasting time over-explaining things. Leave some things to the imagination of your audiences, give their intelligence some credit. Explaining all away is boring anyway.

 

[RoJoHen]

Wouldn't surprise me if this became a novel somewhere down the road. Nero: The Lost Years.

 

[Penhall99]

Trek has suffered from wasting time over-explaining things. Leave some things to the imagination of your audiences, give their intelligence some credit. Explaining all away is boring anyway.

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. But the problem is, its such a gigantic plot hole.

I mean, what the hell WAS he doing for 25 years? How did he know to be there when Spock came through the black hole?

And as has been stated, even the deleted scene of him escaping the prison planet creates gaping plot holes. How did he know when to escape (to get to the blackhole in time to meet Spock)? What happened to his ship during all that time?

I really loved the movie, but that one aspect has been kinda bugging me...

I'd love to get my hands on the original shooting script, to see if this stuff was gone over in dialogue snippets and stuff....

 

[Thrawn]

Because 2 hours after the first scene of the movie ended, Nero's resident science officer or whatever said "Sir, I've figured out what happened to us!" and figured out when Spock was coming back, but it was too late because the Klingons were on their way?

As a rule, if I can think of a scene consisting of less than 10 lines of dialogue that will explain away a plot hole, I don't really let it bother me.

 

[Penhall99]

Because 2 hours after the first scene of the movie ended, Nero's resident science officer or whatever said "Sir, I've figured out what happened to us!" and figured out when Spock was coming back, but it was too late because the Klingons were on their way?

Hmmm...So after some analysis of the situation, Nero's science officer did some computations and figured out when Spock would emerge from the blackhole....Damn, thats a pretty good idea!

Good job!

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Trek has suffered from wasting time over-explaining things. Leave some things to the imagination of your audiences, give their intelligence some credit. Explaining all away is boring anyway.

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. But the problem is, its such a gigantic plot hole.

I mean, what the hell WAS he doing for 25 years? How did he know to be there when Spock came through the black hole?

And as has been stated, even the deleted scene of him escaping the prison planet creates gaping plot holes. How did he know when to escape (to get to the blackhole in time to meet Spock)? What happened to his ship during all that time?

I really loved the movie, but that one aspect has been kinda bugging me...

I guess that's why they cut the Klingon scenes in the first place. They would have confused the hell out of everyone. I don't know what he was doing, but to me, that's part of the fun: speculating. There's a million things one can do in 25 years (and I'm 26, I know what I'm talking about). The point is I believe the writers thought that general audiences would be happier if left with a little mystery: because most people just don't care and it would have burdened the plot. Missing information is better than an overload; and better than crappy explanations.

 

[DrEvil]

Where in the World Was Nero/Narada? [spoilers]

So after the attack on the Kelvin when the Narada is sitting dead in space (so it seemed if it let the shuttles get away so easily), what exactly happens to it and our good friend Nero for the next 25-28 years?

I know that there was a Klingon sub-plot cut from the film that we get glimmers of in the movie and especially the trailers (Klingon fleet destroyed, escape from Rura Penthe, etc.), but where was the Narada during that time? How did just Nero get captured by the Klingons? Why did they wait 20 years to break him out?

I was hoping the novelization might answer some of these things, but from the review at TrekMovie it seems that they left this out.

 

[Phily B]

Re: Where in the World Was Nero/Narada? [spoilers]

I'm hoping that the novel/another comic might answer these questions. Since it was a Borg ship, maybe it regenerates and they hid it somewhere while it did so? Then they wait for Spock so they can get the red matter, and then destroy the Federation/Vulcan with that. I don't think one single ship, even that far from in the future could've destroyed a planet or the entire fleets of the super powers once they knew what was going on.

 

[DontFeedPhil]

Re: Where in the World Was Nero/Narada? [spoilers]

Where was it ever said that it was a borg ship?

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Re: Where in the World Was Nero/Narada? [spoilers]

Nowhere. At least not on-screen.

And the Klingon plot's gone, thank the heavens. So...speculate, people. Use your imagination.