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The Official STAR TREK Grading & Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

Grade the movie...

  • Excellent

    Votes: 711 62.9%
  • Above Average

    Votes: 213 18.8%
  • Average

    Votes: 84 7.4%
  • Below Average

    Votes: 46 4.1%
  • Poor

    Votes: 77 6.8%

  • Total voters
    1,131
I love this though. The fact that people are destroying this film because it was not intelligent enough for them. What was so intelligent about TWOK? Or TVH? Or FC? Those three films are the most successful of the bunch, but they are also the most fun, just like this film.

Plus, you do get "food for thought", even though it is lite fare.

Do two wrongs make a right?
Should Nero have been saved?

At least one can discuss these topics, which were raised but not ponderously by the movie.

I really, really hope Trek doesn't get pedantic with any future movies. Yes, perhaps a bit more depth would be nice, but let the audience figure things out and talk around the water cooler later.

No sledgehammers.
 
Wow.

This was it! The Star Trek film that I knew we deserved after all the [relative] crap that Berman & Bennett threw at us over the years.

I just got back from watching it at the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood, CA. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Sure it's not high sci-fi, but it was a heck of a good time.

What a great feeling to see this film!

golakers
 
I've been trying to browse this (monstrous) thread a bit, and I'm surprised to see that some had problems with them having Nimoy in the movie and attempting to preserve canon.

They could have just made a complete remake/start-over of the franchise, and I'm glad they did not. I'd rather see an altered timeline version of Trek than have them completely wipe the slate clean and dismiss 40 plus years of Trek.

They started over, but did so in a way that preserves everything that came before.

Works for me...

I think what "Spock Prime" did in this movie was a bit of a stretch!
 
Re: Galaxy Quest, oops, I mean Star Trek 11

...From a writer's point of view they are both useless and unimaginative devices, which appear to say the screenwriters of Star Trek lack originality and/or are paying an over-enthusiastic humorous tribute to Galaxy Quest, and all that came before it....
"...Galaxy Quest, and all that came before it."

Actually, it was an tribute to ONLY what came before Galaxy Quest, not Galaxy Quest itself.
 
@jazzstick:

The entire movie made me think! I kept thinking "Why is Hollywood using mall-core pretty boys in an attempt to make Star Trek trendy??"

Oh yeah ... the money.
 
You know, this is like experiencing the legendary broken record yet again...
I remember when Leonard Nimoy was a guest on the Today show, and had a very
complimentary interview with Gene Shalit about the new Star Trek: The Motion
Picture. 24 hours later Shalit trashed the new movie. Yet the new movie went
on to make a load of money for its day...

I remember when Next Generation was about to debut, and the Trek fans and
critics and naysayers were saying "It's not Trek because there's no Kirk and
Spock and McCoy". It lasted more than twice as long as the original series,
and wasn't even on a network...

I remember when Deep Space Nine was about to debut, and the Trek fans and
critics and naysayers were saying "It's not Trek because it's not on a
starship, and is dark and moody". It lasted seven seasons and was also a hit
in syndication...

I remember when Generations was about to debut on the big screen, and there
was all this talk by the Trek fans and critics and naysayers about Kirk
dying, officially passing the torch to the Next Gen cast for movies, and
Trek fans saying that the movies would fail because there was no Kirk and
Spock and McCoy on the big screen...

I remember when Voyager was about to debut, and Trek fans and critics and
naysayers were calling it "Kirk Lite" and such because it was returning to
the concept of a starship on the frontier with no contact with Starfleet or
familiar planets. It lasted seven seasons and was often one of the top show
on the new UPN network...

I remember when Enterprise was about to debut, and the Trek fans and critics
and naysayers were saying that it would destroy canon by doing things that
contradicted history as filmed in all the preceding series and movies.
Having watched every episode and looking for such contradictions, I posit
that while canon may have been brushed against, there was no breaking of
canon. In fact, I really enjoyed it because aside from the novels there was
no "official" history of how the Federation was founded. I just wish UPN
would have given it more time because it was finally making its strides...

I remember the trashing Nemesis got. I believe that had the movie not opened
against James Bond, Lord of the Rings, and Harry Potter at the same time, it
would have done so much better at the domestic box office. I also remember
reading reports that in other countries where it opened without this same
competition, it was number one outside the US.

Through all the decades I have experienced and witnessed constant bashing
and trashing of Star Trek, first in the media and then the Internet, I have
remained a fan. I ignore all the constant trashing and bashing by people who
have nothing better to do than say "it's a waste of money" or "it's not
Shatner" or fill-in-your-blank-of-choice. My wife and I had an incredible
time today at the theatre, and were completely and totally tied to the big
screen by the non-stop action, initial introductions of the Original Series
characters in this alternate timeline (which is so stated and explained
within the movie itself). This is one of those extremely rare movies that we
enjoyed so much that we will go back to the theatre AGAIN...

In my opinion, this movie is a sequel AND a reboot. Leonard Nimoy's Spock
brings with him the knowledge and memories of the original timeline to the
altered timeline counterparts of his crew. Because events in this movie are
indeed in contradiction to established canon, but established canon is
acknowledged, and at the end Nimoy's Spock is still a part of this new
timeline, both timelines logically must be intact. Who is to say that the
event that began this movie did not begin in a parellel universe (a la
"Mirror Mirror")?

Be logical, people. Enjoy the movie for what it is: a return to the Original
cast and crew to find themselves and become the team they are destined to
be... but in their OWN timeline and/or parallel universe.
 

Nothing. I just think he's far more authoritative in whether he got his own character right. Your mileage may vary.

J.

True but it still seemed forced! But then again your mileage may vary too!

To be fair, I was also extremely excited to see Spock on the big screen. Nemesis had been my first Star Trek movie that I had seen in the theater (I've been a huge fan since I was 4, but always missed the movies while they were in theaters). So for me, it was just epic, epic, epic.

J.
 
I remember when Voyager was about to debut, and Trek fans and critics and naysayers were calling it "Kirk Lite" and such because it was returning to the concept of a starship on the frontier with no contact with Starfleet or familiar planets. It lasted seven seasons and was often one of the top show on the new UPN network...

Voyager was Trek Lite and the only reason it lasted seven seasons was because it was on UPN's first seven seasons of existence. If Enterprise had come first, it would've lasted seven seasons and Voyager four.
 
@jazzstick:

The entire movie made me think! I kept thinking "Why is Hollywood using mall-core pretty boys in an attempt to make Star Trek trendy??"

Oh yeah ... the money.


that they could act and capture the essence of the characters..

no that couldnt be it.:devil:
 
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