The Official STAR TREK Grading & Discussion Thread [SPOILERS]

[jamestyler]

I haven't read the first 500 pages of this thread, but even in the last 100, I have read more comments along the lines of, "If you're a real Trekkie, you'll only watch this once, if at all" or, "Real Star Trek fans should hate this!" or ,"If you're a fan of this, you're a traitor!" than I ever really want to. These comments are just as bad and rediculous as the Canon Nazi comments that come from the other side. Makers of both comments need to get over themselves.

I am a Trekkie. I have watched and loved Star Trek for literally as long as I can remember. And I enjoyed this movie. Deal with it.

My love for the film isn't exactly subtle... but I'll second this.

My dads seeing the movie tonight and I'm looking forward to his reaction. As a bonus someone bought tickets for me this weekend so we could watch it together - this is someone who had no interest in Star Trek and since she saw the 'Two steps from hell' ad she's watched all the best of my TOS, DS9, movies and TNG.

Good film + new interest = Awesome. For me at least.

 

[timmay2411]

Did anyone see James Cawley?

I looked but didn't see him. He wasn't credited either.

Heard Greg Grunberg's voice though.

 

[cbspock]

Hey I just saw the movie last night and absolutely loved it....


My one big concern however was the fact that they literally went from being cadets to officers especially with Kirk being a cadet to become captain instantly...its a little hard to believe and I dont know if anyone knows why they would do that. Besides that I would easily give it a 9/10 maybe a 10

However Kirk was already a 3rd year cadet. He was also Pike's "golden boy". So he had some heavy weight sponsorship in Starfleet, plus his dad was a Starfleet hero.


-Chris

 

[Chess Piece Face]

I voted Excellent. I loved it.

I only have 2 very tiny nits to pick. The car stealing scene was cheesy and the ice monster chase was pointless and fake looking.

THAT'S IT.

The fucking movie is amazing. I consider myself a hardcore trekker. It is a good movie. Period.

My two non trekkie pals loved it. One is 25, the other 32.

 

[Michael]

Did anyone see James Cawley?

As far as I know his and Jeff Quinn's scenes were cut.

 

[Agent Richard07]

I just realized that every officer in Starfleet has the arrowhead on their uniform. In TOS, every ship had their own crest and the arrowhead was only used on the Enterprise.

 

[Chess Piece Face]

Hey I just saw the movie last night and absolutely loved it....


My one big concern however was the fact that they literally went from being cadets to officers especially with Kirk being a cadet to become captain instantly...its a little hard to believe and I dont know if anyone knows why they would do that. Besides that I would easily give it a 9/10 maybe a 10

However Kirk was already a 3rd year cadet. He was also Pike's "golden boy". So he had some heavy weight sponsorship in Starfleet, plus his dad was a Starfleet hero.


-Chris

Plus, you know, they all saved the planet Earth. Heh.

Also, it is implied that the natural order of Destiny is to have him be the captain and spock the XO, by old Spock.

Finally - it's a movie.

 

[Agent Richard07]

Heard Greg Grunberg's voice though.

I was just looking at the IMDb and noticed that he played the stepdad.

 

[cbspock]

The Enterprise design and Bridge design didn't bother me like it had been when I first saw them in the trailer. I thought it all worked. If you looked closely the layout on the consoles was very in line with the old TOS consoles, the buttons were laid out in the same half circles.

-Chris

 

[cbspock]

Hey I just saw the movie last night and absolutely loved it....


My one big concern however was the fact that they literally went from being cadets to officers especially with Kirk being a cadet to become captain instantly...its a little hard to believe and I dont know if anyone knows why they would do that. Besides that I would easily give it a 9/10 maybe a 10

However Kirk was already a 3rd year cadet. He was also Pike's "golden boy". So he had some heavy weight sponsorship in Starfleet, plus his dad was a Starfleet hero.


-Chris

Plus, you know, they all saved the planet Earth. Heh.

Also, it is implied that the natural order of Destiny is to have him be the captain and spock the XO, by old Spock.

Finally - it's a movie.

Yep. It all worked IMO. When old Spock was looking in on the promotion ceremony, and he says "full thrusters", and we cut to the Enterprise, I thought that was a nice touch at the end.

-Chris

 

[cbspock]

I voted Excellent. I loved it.

I only have 2 very tiny nits to pick. The car stealing scene was cheesy and the ice monster chase was pointless and fake looking.

THAT'S IT.

The fucking movie is amazing. I consider myself a hardcore trekker. It is a good movie. Period.

My two non trekkie pals loved it. One is 25, the other 32.

The Ice Monster chase, and the little one being eaten by the other just screamed ILM, Star Wars BS effects for the effect sake.


-Chris

 

[Mr. B]

...
Long story short: I really wanted to like it, but I wound up deeply disappointed. This was not only not good Star Trek, it just wasn't a good movie, period.
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I think your review nailed it. This film is just as bad judged as regular cinema fare as it is judged as part of the Star Trek franchise. I know most people seem to disagree and find that this two hours of loosely strung together one-liners and explosions ranks among the best of Star Trek. I'm sure Paramount and Nokia couldn't be happier.

 

[Agent Richard07]

No Nurse Chapel, Yeoman Rand or Number One. I know they want to get back to basics, but Chapel and Rand at least were big players in the original series and deserved some screentime. I really hope they appear in Star Trek XII.

The writers made the right decision to leave out Nurse Chapel and Yeoman Rand since there is so much that a new viewer of Trek can take in this film. However, I do agree that they should appear in STXII. If not, I will be severely disappointed.

Listen carefully when you see the film next time. There's a scene in sickbay -- I THINK when McCoy takes over CMO -- that as he heads offscreen, he calls out for Nurse Chapel.

Well, Chapel IS in the movie. If only mentioned by name

I'll be on the lookout next time. I seem to remember some blurb from a few weeks back about a blonde actress playing a nurse, but I forgot about it and didn't look out for anything when I actually saw the movie.

 

[galleywest]

I think these are really good points, and I agree completely. People are now in the "if you didn't like it you're a canon nazi and didn't get it" mode, which I think is unfair. My quibble with the movie can really be distilled into the above points. I do get it, it's just hard to feel the same connection to an alternate universe Trek as opposed to the original Trek universe. I think this is a valid reaction to the film.

This I can understand. I think the "knee jerk defense" reaction has come from months of "It violates canon!" and "They've wiped out everything we ever loved!" posts. Clearly neither of these are true (and your post reflects that), but since we've been so saturated with that, it's easy to just suddenly react without really carefully reading the posts. Not defending, just observing.

I didn't see or read ANY spoilers for this film. Not one. So for me, it was a LOT to take in all at once. I didn't have the benefit of several months or weeks to digest the new direction the movie was going to take. I understand the frustration of having to hear these comments for months before the film even opened and can see why the "deal with it, already" crowd is so strong here. Having not been prepped on the alternate universe thing, however...I'm still reeling! Give me time.

Oh, and: Sulu and the samurai sword scene. That was AWESOME, and I absolutely LOVED it.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I just realized that every officer in Starfleet has the arrowhead on their uniform. In TOS, every ship had their own crest and the arrowhead was only used on the Enterprise.

Not quite true. Especially in the first year that practice was spotty and inconsistent in TOS. In "Court Martial" Kirk chats in a bar with two officers who are clearly not assigned to the Enterprise ("I haven't seen you since the Vulcanian expedition") but who wear the arrowhead.

 

[Agent Richard07]

I just realized that every officer in Starfleet has the arrowhead on their uniform. In TOS, every ship had their own crest and the arrowhead was only used on the Enterprise.

Not quite true. Especially in the first year that practice was spotty and inconsistent in TOS. In "Court Martial" Kirk chats in a bar with two officers who are clearly not assigned to the Enterprise ("I haven't seen you since the Vulcanian expedition") but who wear the arrowhead.

Guess we can write the different crests off as a temporary thing around the time of TOS then.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

You know, I didn't notice a single bar-code scanner during the entire film - I know they were all over the place, but I didn't notice.

In fact, none of the complaints I had before seeing the film - about the score, or Engineering, or the bridge - bothered me a bit while I was watching it. I was just so there.

 

[jamestyler]

In fact, none of the complaints I had before seeing the film - about the score, or Engineering, or the bridge - bothered me a bit while I was watching it. I was just so there.

Thats another thing - the score was brilliant! I've been listening to some of it in YouTube today - just some really nice work.

 

[thesadpanda]

Loved the movie. My only complaint was that the action was so unrelenting. It was almost TOO MUCH. I started to feel a little sensory overload and I think it kept me from taking in how truly awesome what I was watching was. The brief respite when Kirk meets old Spock on Delta Vega was VERY welcome but it didn't last very long -- they were up and running with more action almost immediately. I'm not trying to argue in favor of endless talking heads but I would have been nice to have a few quiet scenes just for contrast! Still, when the worst thing you can think of to say about a movie is it was too freakin' exciting, that's a good thing!

As for the rest, yeah, I could quibble about some things. How'd they know Nero was a Romulan if they'd never seen Romulans? Spock and Uhura, huh? Why didn't Nero use red matter to destroy the star that was going to destroy Romulus instead of going after Federation planets? But you know what -- WHO CARES? The Onion video that was linked to earlier in this thread hit the nail on the head. Everybody should go watch it.

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/trekkies_bash_new_star_trek_film?utm_source=videoembed

I prefer to concentrate on how much butt this movie kicked and leave it at that!

 

[SalvorHardin]

I can see that with one or two exceptions, this forum is full of muppets and traitors and brain-dead mindless idiots who point at the flashing lights and say 'Ooh, pretty!' so I see no reason to bother posting here anymore.

Come on

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